Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-09 Thread Warren W. Aney
: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of joseph gathman Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:49 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: all those selfish mothers! "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understan

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-09 Thread joseph gathman
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." Albert A. Bartlett, emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Colorado at Boulder, Time will tell... _

decision-making (was Re: all those selfish mothers!)

2007-12-09 Thread Laura Jodice
While I agree it is time to move on from the conversation that is resulting in criticism of peoples beliefs regarding having children, it would be interesting to hear feedback regarding animals making the decision whether or not to bear children. There are years in which reproduction is reduced or

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-09 Thread Neal Bryan
Joe, I'm not ready to append QED to your submitted proof. First, it is telling that you omitted your original statement from the reply history below. Here it is, QFT: Joe Gathman wrote: "...I've always thought that having children is just about the most selfish thing anybody could do..." Now

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-09 Thread Teresa M. Woods
Can we move on and end this weary conversation? There's enough finger-pointing to go around re: the environmental state of our world. We can all be proud of some of our actions and efforts, even knowing every single one of us can do better. To be frank, the electricity we all use on our computer

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-08 Thread David M. Lawrence
merica: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph gathman Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:20 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: all those selfish mothers! > I simply cannot understand how anyone > could think that childbearing and childrearing are > selfi

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-08 Thread Hensley, Erin
ree" like it was when I was a child. From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of = joseph gathman Sent: Sat 12/8/2007 4:19 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: all those selfish mothers! > I simply cannot understand how anyone > could think that childbe

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-08 Thread joseph gathman
> I simply cannot understand how anyone > could think that childbearing and childrearing are > selfish at any level. I should clarify what I meant by "selfish". I'm not talking about a mother sacrificing for her child (it's what she SHOULD do, and, after all, it is perpetuating her own alleles)

Re: all those selfish mothers!

2007-12-07 Thread Neal Bryan
Joe Gathman wrote, "...I've always thought that having children is just = about the most selfish thing anybody could do..." [yeah, so no thanks, = Mom!] I have seen the above sentiment expressed several times in this = discussion. I simply cannot understand how anyone could think that = childbear