RE: objective html

2001-12-20 Thread Martin Kultermann
mann eStar Communications, Inc. Office: (312) 275-0294 Portable: (847) 372-2381 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:24 PM To: ecs-user Subject: Re: objective html on 12/18/01 10:46 AM, "robert burrell

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 12/18/01 3:34 PM, "Ka-Hing Cheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is DVSL?? -jon -- Standard rules apply: Ask any questions, and you get the job. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread Ka-Hing Cheung
> > > >Honestly, there is very little room for innovation in the java webapp >framework space at this point. We have solved nearly every problem out >there. Now, it is a matter of polishing those solutions up and packaging >them for distribution. DVSL will be the next killer thing and is the last

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 09:45 PM, David Ethell wrote: > I think you're still missing the point. They aren't saying ECS is a > success as a platform and objectivehtml won't be. They are saying ECS is > a success as far as an open source project, but not as a platform for > developing we

RE: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread David Ethell
ge- > From: keithwong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:32 PM > To: ECS Users List > Subject: Re: objective html > > > so let me get this right... you guys use some old ideas... > its a success... i use some old ideas.. its a failure r

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 12/19/00 1:31 PM, "keithwong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anyway Jon, thanks for you help... you email this time round has been much > more constructive... even though i don't agree with it.. If you don't agree with me, then prove that you are right and I am wrong. -jon -- To unsubscribe,

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread keithwong
ssage - From: "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ecs-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: Re: objective html > on 12/18/01 10:46 AM, "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 12/18/01 10:46 AM, "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in many ways, ecs is a success. ecs is relatively bug-free and is good at > it's job - creating marked up text in code. it's just that this doesn't > seem very exciting any more. > > - robert No. We found better ways to

Re: objective html

2001-12-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 07:40 AM, keithwong wrote: >> is there any need to take things *so* personally? >> > > Sorry Rob.. sarcasm doesn't go well with me. > >> please take the trouble the find out who you're flaming before starting >> a >> war that you're going to loose. for exampl

Re: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread keithwong
> is there any need to take things *so* personally? > Sorry Rob.. sarcasm doesn't go well with me. > please take the trouble the find out who you're flaming before starting a > war that you're going to loose. for example, try www.google.com and search > for '"jon stevens"+ java'. at the moment

Re: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
is there any need to take things *so* personally? please take the trouble the find out who you're flaming before starting a war that you're going to loose. for example, try www.google.com and search for '"jon stevens"+ java'. at the moment, jon's being really pretty constructive - if you tak

Re: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread keithwong
Hi Jon, > on 12/17/01 3:31 AM, "keithwong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some advantages of Objective HTML are: > > - Form data is much easily handled and much more intuitive > > Look at Torque in the Jakarta Turbine project. I just reviewed your > documentation and your project seems to be a

Re: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread keithwong
Hi Martin, > Hi Keith, that sounds great, I've been looking for that exact thing. There > was a product call Hammock from OOP that did just that. However, they got > bought out and it's no longer being marketed. Are you familiar with it? If > not, you might want to take a look at it. It was a sl

Re: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 12/17/01 3:31 AM, "keithwong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some advantages of Objective HTML are: > - Form data is much easily handled and much more intuitive Look at Torque in the Jakarta Turbine project. I just reviewed your documentation and your project seems to be a combination of wantin

RE: objective html

2001-12-17 Thread Martin Kultermann
Hi Keith, that sounds great, I've been looking for that exact thing. There was a product call Hammock from OOP that did just that. However, they got bought out and it's no longer being marketed. Are you familiar with it? If not, you might want to take a look at it. It was a slick solution. I've b