Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Andrew Fish
On Aug 8, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Jordan Justen wrote: > On 2014-08-07 11:30:08, Cameron Esfahani wrote: >> I got no skin in this discussion, but I can't leave this be. >> >> You might only have one definition of free software, but I'm >> reasonably confident if you asked any random person who isn't

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Cameron Esfahani
You can do whatever you like. I'm just saying that when Andrew said "free", it seemed to me that he was using the more commonly understood definition of the word: you didn't pay anything for FAT, so it's free. And not to be argumentative, but I picked a random file from edk2 and looked at the

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-08 Thread Jordan Justen
On 2014-08-07 11:30:08, Cameron Esfahani wrote: > I got no skin in this discussion, but I can't leave this be. > > You might only have one definition of free software, but I'm > reasonably confident if you asked any random person who isn't > involved in the OSS movement what you called something y

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Cameron Esfahani
I got no skin in this discussion, but I can't leave this be. You might only have one definition of free software, but I'm reasonably confident if you asked any random person who isn't involved in the OSS movement what you called something you didn't pay for, they'd say it was "free". Or "stolen

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 06/08/2014 23:51, Andrew Fish ha scritto: > On Aug 6, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> However, the non-free nature of the OVMF binaries mean that QEMU >> will never ever ship OVMF binaries until the license is fixed for >> the offending FAT driver. Not only because we don't want to g

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-06 Thread Reza Jelveh
On 06/08/14 14:51, Andrew Fish wrote: > How you write a GPL licensed FAT driver seems like a legal quagmire. Probably > something better discussed with a lawyer. From the outside looking in it > seems like the IP rights are enforced by charging licensing fees to devices > that support FAT. So f

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-06 Thread Andrew Fish
On Aug 6, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Il 06/08/2014 12:34, Laszlo Ersek ha scritto: >> So no, you can't ship an OVMF binary (or source tarball) that contains >> the FAT driver, bundled as part of the GPLv2 (+compatible) QEMU >> distribution, either in source or in binary form. > >

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-06 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 06/08/2014 12:34, Laszlo Ersek ha scritto: > So no, you can't ship an OVMF binary (or source tarball) that contains > the FAT driver, bundled as part of the GPLv2 (+compatible) QEMU > distribution, either in source or in binary form. What Laszlo said is mostly my understanding too (IANAL etc.).

Re: [edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-06 Thread Laszlo Ersek
On 08/06/14 09:40, Reza Jelveh wrote: > Hello, > > EDK2 integrates FAT as a binary driver. What is the license of the FAT driver? https://svn.code.sf.net/p/edk2/code/trunk/edk2/FatBinPkg/License.txt > What are the guidelines for use of binary drivers with EDK2? Specifically if > you want to bund

[edk2] license for binary drivers

2014-08-06 Thread Reza Jelveh
Hello, EDK2 integrates FAT as a binary driver. What is the license of the FAT driver? What are the guidelines for use of binary drivers with EDK2? Specifically if you want to bundle an OVMF firmware with qemu? In theory an .fd is a disk image right? So when I bundle a GPL driver with EDK2 its no