Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread Rich Ulrich
- also posted to sci.stat.consult, where the same question showed up. Steve tells how to make the best of the data, making the likely assumptions about the 120 days - On 13 Oct 2000 10:38:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon, Steve, PhD) wrote: > Hans-Christian Waldmann writes: > > >Now, what a

Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread Elliot Cramer
In sci.stat.consult Dr. Hans-Christian Waldmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Hello everybody, you havn't really given enough information but here is a suggestion. you have three separate groups. If they are not the treatment groups with random assignment, anything else you do will be VERY dubi

RE: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread Simon, Steve, PhD
Hans-Christian Waldmann writes: >Now, what am I supposed to do with data from a design giving a T=120 >time series for _each_ of 120 subjects ? There has been a controlled >study where patients in three independent groups were asked to keep >a diary on some outcome variables for ca. 4 months.

RE: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread Magill, Brett
Thus, answering the question what factors (X) influence the rate of change/direction across time in Y. -Original Message- From: MJ Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ? "

Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread MJ Ray
"Gaj Vidmar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there seems to be no word from professional statisticians yet, so here's an > addenum. This message was posted in many places, so presumably we will get a summary of responses if we care? My own suggestion (mangled by a bad emailer) was to use vector ti

Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-13 Thread Gaj Vidmar
Dr. Waldman, there seems to be no word from professional statisticians yet, so here's an addenum. Namely, I have overlooked two important aspects of the study; which, hovever, doesn't invalidate the basic idea of pooling individual data over appropriate time-periods. The first aspect are the th

Re: 120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-12 Thread Gaj Vidmar
What I can propose is rather simple, so it may well be completely wrong (especially as no true expert has posted anything on the topic so far), but perhaps it will be of some use: why not pool data for an individual over time-periods - say, months, or to preserve more information, weeks? (Perhaps

120 subjects on 120 occassion: a model ?

2000-10-12 Thread Dr. Hans-Christian Waldmann
Hello everybody, in one of the clinical projects we consult on data analysis, I am facing a problem I have not yet come across and that leaves me with no idea on how to proceed. The problem pertains to the dimension of the outcome data set. In a repeated measures design, let N be the number o