Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-20 Thread Michael Greene
Given equal width bars, the area of any given bar is proportional to it's frequency. Sometimes, as you obseverved, the area and the frequency are identical, but that isn't always the case. What is always true in a histogram is that a bar's contribution to the total area is proportional the freq

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-15 Thread dennis roberts
well this indeed is interesting ... i now know what we can talk about for the first ENTIRE week of a basic stat class ... histograms and bar charts 1. a compilation of all the definitions thereof (including greek roots) 2. discussion of whether a "histogram" can be used for depicting a discrete

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-14 Thread Donald Burrill
ought (and think) was irrelevant. Yes, I agree: the subject of this thread began as "Histogram for discrete probability distribution", which is arguably an oxymoron, since histograms appear to have been conceived orginally with respect to continuous (or at any rate quasi-continuous) d

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-14 Thread Alexander Bogomolny
Dear Donald: > I found it interesting that Alexander Bogomolny cites additional > dictionaries, but does not address the question of how to deal with the > fact that definitions may actually be incorrect in the dictionary (or > any other reference, for that matter) that one is consulting; and th

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-14 Thread Donald Burrill
Dennis Roberts wrote in part, answering Alexander Bogomolny: AB >... The point is that the bars in a histogram are not automatically AB >assumed to have equal widths. > > once a scale is determined, it has units ... ... and, each unit > covers some baseline distance ... AND, if there are freq

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-14 Thread Alexander Bogomolny
You may also consult 1. The Penguin Dictionary of Mathematics. 2. REA's Problem Solvers Statistics dennis roberts wrote: > > At 11:24 PM 8/13/00 -0400, Alexander Bogomolny wrote: > >Well, the reference to the dictionary consisted of two parts. > >The second is in fact inessential. The point is

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-14 Thread dennis roberts
At 11:24 PM 8/13/00 -0400, Alexander Bogomolny wrote: >Well, the reference to the dictionary consisted of two parts. >The second is in fact inessential. The point is that the bars >in a histogram are not automatically assumed to have equal >widths. once a scale is determined, it has units ... in

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-13 Thread dennis roberts
i would say that the harper collins dictionary of mathematics is wrong i think most would say that a bar chart has a baseline that is not a quantitative scale ... and, the order in which the bars are listed is essentially arbitrary At 11:43 PM 8/12/00 +, Alexander Bogomolny wrote: >The Harper

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-12 Thread Alexander Bogomolny
The Harper Collins Dictionary of Mathematics gives the following definitions: 1. Histogram - a figure that represents a frequency distribution, consisting of contiguous rectangles with width proportional to the size of the respective class intervals and areas proportional to the relative frequenc

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-10 Thread Anon.
Sheila King wrote: > > [cross-posted to sci.stat.edu,sci.stat.math,k12.ed.math] > > I'm teaching a GE stat course, my first time teaching stat, and am > having some points of confusion. Here is one of my questions: > > Suppose I have a probability distribution as follows: > > Sample space: > 1

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-10 Thread Sheila King
On 9 Aug 2000 21:26:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Burrill) wrote in sci.stat.edu in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: :Sounds as though you are confusing a couple of things, as some of the :responders to your message have suggested (though none has said it :explicitly). The idea of "area unde

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-10 Thread Juha Puranen
"Jose Ramon G. Albert" wrote: > > Try having the points enumerated be the centers of your rectangles > with each rectangle having an AREA of 1/6. Thus the first rectangle > should have its corners at 1.25 and 1.75 (and have 1.5 as its midpoint). > Now since the width of your rectange is 0.5, let

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, dennis roberts wrote in part: > [You could use] dotplots ... < snip, some commentary about dot plots > > [or] a simple old fashioned [character-graphics] histogram ... > Histogram of C1 N = 36 > > MidpointCount >1.5006 ** >2.0

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread Donald Burrill
Sounds as though you are confusing a couple of things, as some of the responders to your message have suggested (though none has said it explicitly). The idea of "area under a curve" applies to a continuous curve, and thus to continuous distributions. It doesn't make sense for discrete distr

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread dennis roberts
true histograms have continuous baselines, which you don't have ... charts ... dotplots ... etc. could be used for discrete data ... now, in the old fashioned graphics ... the dotplot is easy to do BUT, regulating what values you get on the baseline is NOT ... and where you want them in the ne

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread Shareef Siddeek
For discrete random variable, sum of the heights (probability) over the sample space equals one. Cheers. Siddeek Sheila King wrote: > [cross-posted to sci.stat.edu,sci.stat.math,k12.ed.math] > > I'm teaching a GE stat course, my first time teaching stat, and am > having some points of co

Re: Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread Jose Ramon G. Albert
ED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:02 AM Subject: Histogram for discrete probability distribution > [cross-posted to sci.stat.edu,sci.stat.math,k12.ed.math] > > I'm teaching a GE stat course, my first time teaching stat, and am > having some po

Histogram for discrete probability distribution

2000-08-09 Thread Sheila King
[cross-posted to sci.stat.edu,sci.stat.math,k12.ed.math] I'm teaching a GE stat course, my first time teaching stat, and am having some points of confusion. Here is one of my questions: Suppose I have a probability distribution as follows: Sample space: 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5 and each of