speaking of combining info from a dotplot and a boxplot ... which i want to dub ... DOXPLOT ...minitab does have a macro file ... called %describe ... that shows the histogram of a distribution and below it, the boxplot ... one example is at http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/introstat/desc.png of course, there really is no importance to the BOX .. part of the boxplot ... and if one could indicate along the baseline of the histogram ... or, dotplot ... the same points indicated on the boxplot ... Q1, median, Q3 ... seems like that would do the trick ... SO, AGAIN, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A REGULAR GRAPH ROUTINE ... IN ANY PACKAGE ... THAT DOES JUST THAT?? IN one GRAPH ... show both the frequency distribution ... and, the summary Q points along the baseline? as for flagging extreme values ... which the boxplot above shows an example of ... it becomes rather visually obvious ... in looking at the histogram graph ... independent OF the dot in the boxplot ... out past the upper whisker doxplots would kill two birds with one graphic stone _________________________________________________________ dennis roberts, educational psychology, penn state university 208 cedar, AC 8148632401, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================