Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-08 Thread dennis roberts
all of this discussion re: t test and normality and when it makes a difference and when it does not ... plus all the other assumptions made in all kinds of tests with similar sometimes/sometimes not problems ... just reinforces the fact that we need to be real skeptical about p values ...

Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-07 Thread Glen Barnett
Bob Hayden wrote: > In addition to the approximation involved in using the CLT, most > (possibly all) practical situations require that you estimate the > population standard deviation with the sample standard deviation in > calculating a standard error for use in constructing a confidence > inter

RE: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-07 Thread Wuensch, Karl L.
Some Monte Carlos I've done suggest that when the population is distinctly skewed, the distribution of t is distinctly different from that of Student's t, even when the sample size is large enough for the distribution of sample means to be approximately normal.

Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-06 Thread Gary McClelland
Don Burrill in a discussion of the assumptions of t-test assumptions writes: > "Acceptable" I don't know about: depends on the universe of discourse. > But you should try to justify the assumption that the observations are > taken independently, and that the underlying within-group variances a

Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-06 Thread Bob Hayden
Selections from an earlier exchange on EdStat-L are followed by some comments. - Forwarded message from Donald Burrill - On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Gates, Christopher [OMP] wrote: > Donald, thank you so much for your response. I had the opportunity to > converse with my friend (HOH) on this

Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-06 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Gates, Christopher [OMP] wrote: > Donald, thank you so much for your response. I had the opportunity to > converse with my friend (HOH) on this matter again, and his explanation > seemed to closely follow yours, or at least that's how I see it. > > I guess the bottom line

Re: t-test normality assumption

2000-08-03 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, chris (who, from his e-mail address, clearly does not desire a personal response) wrote: > I have a doubt as to what is the assumption for normality in a t-test. > > Two possibilities: These may perhaps not exhaust the universe of discourse. > I think it is for the sample

t-test normality assumption

2000-08-02 Thread chris
I have a doubt as to what is the assumption for normality in a t-test. Two possibilities: I think it is for the sample data I have, while a dear friend says it relates to the population and Central Limit Theorem. I wrote: "I went back to the reference on the t-test normality assumptions and th