Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-17 Thread Pedro Valero
You might want to check the article: Why frames suck (most of the time) by Jacob Nielsen. Nielsen is one of the most famous gurus of the Human Computer Interaction field and wrote for several years a column about usability problems of the web. The URL for the paper is: http://www.useit.com/alertb

Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-17 Thread Eric Bohlman
Robert Dawson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : Well, yes, there are; there is no easy way to pass on a reference : any more. It is aggravating when you want to send somebody the URL for : one page in a big site and it is a frame on a huge page, so that the : URL gets you only to the "home frame".

Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-16 Thread Gary McClelland
John wrote in reply to my positive note about frames: >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Gary McClelland >>> there are no longer negatives. >> >> Well, yes, there are; > [i.e. bookmarking] > > Frames also complicate keyboard use: too often the wrong frame scrolls. > Annoying and avo

Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-16 Thread John Hendrickx
In article <0f9001bfbf35$e7dbd920$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... > > - Original Message - > From: Gary McClelland > > there are no longer negatives. > > Well, yes, there are; [i.e. bookmarking] Frames also complicate keyboard use: too often the wrong frame scrolls.

Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-16 Thread Robert Dawson
- Original Message - From: Gary McClelland > With older browsers, frames were to be avoided because implementation was > inconsistent and most importantly the Back button was often broken. But it > is difficult to find those older browsers in use any more. The modern > browsers Netscape

Re: to frame or not frame

2000-05-15 Thread Gary McClelland
Dennis asks about using frames for websites: > > this has been first of all an attempt on my part to learn a bit about > frames ... but, perhaps more importantly ... to try to decide which way > seems to make more sense > > any general comments or feedback about this would be helpful to me ..

to frame or not frame

2000-05-15 Thread dennis roberts
for a long time, i have had a main web site at: http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm but, in the past week or so, i have 'framed' it at: http://roberts.edpsu.edu/users/droberts/drframe.htm this has been first of all an attempt on my part to learn a bit about frames ... but, p