RE: [Edu-sig] Re: Integration correction

2005-03-31 Thread Kirby Urner
> Kirby Urner wrote: > > Again, I think you're probably right, that this particular example is > > perverse. Edu-sig is a scratch pad for bad ideas too. :-D > > Sorry, Kirby, I see we all seemed to jump on top of you here. > > --Scott David Daniels > [EMAIL PROTECTED] S'ok. >From my point

RE: [Edu-sig] Re: More on intro to Python (today's 3 hr training)

2005-03-31 Thread Kirby Urner
> > So my general question is, as usual: wouldn't this be an interesting > > and intelligent way to teach math? <> > I think it would be ... were it not for the following "facts": > > 1) subjects are taught in a compartimentalised way, leading to easy > testing/grading ... > > you don't teach

RE: [Edu-sig] Re: More on intro to Python (today's 3 hr training)

2005-03-31 Thread Kirby Urner
I see your recipe made the Daily Python-URL today: http://www.pythonware.com/daily/ I'm including your revisions in hypertoons24.py http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/python/hypertoons/ Kirby > Kirby Urner wrote: > > Speaking of hypertoons, Scott sent me a cool refactoring of said module > > us

Re: [Edu-sig] Re: Best approach to teaching OOP and graphics

2005-03-31 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Dethe Elza wrote: On 27-Mar-05, at 2:04 PM, John Zelle wrote: There is a good reason for these traditional guidelines, that is to make the abstraction you are defining independent of its implementation. Down the road, I might want to change the internal representation of color, or remove or rena

Re: [Edu-sig] Re: Best approach to teaching OOP and graphics

2005-03-31 Thread Dethe Elza
On 31-Mar-05, at 3:53 PM, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: There are still times when you don't want to expose attributes directly, but getters and setters don't help you there either. For example, if both myObj.x and myObj.y must be changed in synch to stay valid, then they should be set via myObj.setX