RE: [Edu-sig] Re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Lloyd Hugh Allen > I would really like to actively read this sig, because next semester > I'm going to be using Python as a vehicle for something like half of > the first quarter of a semester-long S

[Edu-sig] Squeezing Python into CS1 (was Beyond CP4E)

2005-04-17 Thread John Zelle
Hello Chuck, Welcome aboard. I'm a fan and user of the "Thinking in" series so I'm pleased to meet you (virtually, that is). As far as your question about how to convince others to give Python a try, I think you already hit one of the nails on the head when you wrote of the "crowded" CS1 curric

RE: Re[2]: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Chuck Allison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 6:57 PM > To: Arthur > Cc: 'Kirby Urner'; edu-sig@python.org > Subject: Re[2]: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E > > Hello Arthur, > > Boy this is getting thick! Confident humility is quite attai

Re[2]: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Chuck Allison
Hello Arthur, Boy this is getting thick! Confident humility is quite attainable. (Just ask me :-). (Please forgive the top-post. And being new here, let me self-introduce: I'm a college CS professor (with 20 years development experience) trying to get Python in our curriculum (with some success)

Re: [Edu-sig] Re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Lloyd Hugh Allen
Utopic? I don't want to add another post to this thread, because it has gone long enough. And I don't want to be that guy, but if it goes much further, then (not that anyone else should care) I may go ahead and put myself on hiatus from this sig for a while. Gmail treats threads really wel

[Edu-sig] Re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Lee Harr
Via Lee's cite I come to learn ( I really already knew) that my friends at Apple are quite confident they have the issues licked. http://www.apple.com/education/digitalkids/ Reading through there reminds me of an interview with some young people that I saw a few weeks ago... 60 minutes or 20/20 ma

RE: [Edu-sig] Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Kirby Urner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: 'Arthur'; 'Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra' > > The comparison of the young man with a rose is a constant motif throughout > the Sonnets, commencing with 1, then here, and in 67, 95, 98, 99, and 109. > In 67 it is also co

[Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
Via Lee's cite I come to learn ( I really already knew) that my friends at Apple are quite confident they have the issues licked. http://www.apple.com/education/digitalkids/ Blustering braggarts that they are. Art ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@

RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:29 PM > To: 'Arthur'; 'Kirby Urner'; edu-sig@python.org > Subject: RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E > > > From: Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: 'Kirby Urner'; 'Arthur'; edu-sig@python.org

RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> From: Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: 'Kirby Urner'; 'Arthur'; edu-sig@python.org > Be that as it may, if you discount my efforts to communicate on the > grounds > on which you seem to be doing so, you are leaving the field to the > linearists. A mistake. It is true that I don't know mo

RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Arthur
> -Original Message- > From: Kirby Urner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:11 AM > To: 'Arthur'; edu-sig@python.org > Subject: RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E > > > > Speaking of Shakespeare, I think the computer has brought us as close > as > > > we've ever come t

RE: [Edu-sig] Beyond CP4E

2005-04-17 Thread Kirby Urner
> Sorry to harp, but counting roses in Shakespeare does not pass the smell > test there. > <> > Art A bit 'o searching on Google this AM: = """ The youth is praised not only for his beauty, but for inward truth as well. Those whose beauty is composed only of externalities are compared to