@ Kirby: 8th-graders are 14 year-olds, right? (That is: do you countclasses from primary school grade 1 (like we do here)? How many lesson
hours do you have?Yes, about 14. I have 'em for about an hour, once a week, for about 9 weeks.
When starting with total newbies, you have to decide very
Kirby is correct about the ability to write really weird looking code in J.(I assume that is what is meant by J is maybe the most weird language I know).
E.g. http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/graphics/phistone.jpgKirby
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Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a Logo thing.
Are you willing to expand?
What is the importance
Brad Miller wrote:
The last note about the Python in Education BOF at PyCon inspired me
to send this out.
John Zelle, Mark Guzdial, David Ranum, and myself will be hosting a
special session on teaching introductory computer science with Python
at SIGCSE this week. I hope that this will
On 26 Feb 2006 at 9:04, Arthur wrote:
Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a Logo thing.
Are
Daniel Ajoy wrote:
On 26 Feb 2006 at 9:04, Arthur wrote:
Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a
On 26 Feb 2006 at 8:55, kirby urner wrote:
I just wanted to verify the claim that some Python modules
really incorporate J semantics.
numpy incorporates the idea of 'rank' and 'axes' much the way J or other
array based languages do i.e. you can shape numbers to have however many
axes
Here is something I got from:
http://www.unb.ca/web/transpo/mynet/Iverson_APL.htmThanks Daniel, interesting paper.Teaching resources around J have grown since that 1991 date. Roger Hui's 'idiosyncratic introduction to J' is one of my favorites. The ability to write 'labs' in J, interactive
Hi Kirby,
Given this is 8th grade, I look at it as first exposure or a first pass.
Some stuff will go over their heads, some will stick. It's not necessary
that they be complete masters of everything they see. I think a lot of
education is previewing. What I dislike about most math
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Arthur wrote:Brad has been quiet about his publication Problem Solving with Algorithms and Data Structures Using PythonThanks for the plug.http://www.fbeedle.com/053-9.htmlIt's certainly of interest to me.Of course Alan Kay expressed this week that the teaching
On 2/26/06, Brad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Data structures and algorithms may not be exciting (for Kay), but they are as fundamental to computing as cells are to biology.
I think the goal is to get into these quickly and painlessly (Python helps!) but not make 'em the be all end all i.e.
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