Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur
From: Michael Tobis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that when you stray from pure python you shrink your user base and complicate your support issues substantially. Haven't had the opportunity to code much anew, but am still replaying to myself where I am with these issues, and in the

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-21 Thread Michael Tobis
I use numeric a lot, and I understand what you mean. Perhaps there is some Python-like scientific language yet to be invented, but on the other hand, perhaps the interface between convenient latent typing and efficient strong typing may be fated to always be a bit uncomfortable. Meanwhile I have

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-21 Thread Laura Creighton
Arthur, have you tried using Psyco? Then you get to write your code in a naive, straightforward fashion, and then you get something that runs nearly as fast. Plus no headaches from having to write your code inside out, like numeric makes you do, all too often. Laura, sold on it, In a message

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-21 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:17:42 CST, Michael Tobis writes: I use numeric a lot, and I understand what you mean. Perhaps there is some Python-like scientific language yet to be invented, but on the other hand, perhaps the interface between convenient latent typing and efficient strong

[Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-21 Thread kirby urner
Of course gnu math is a pun on new math, more formally known as SMSG, and designed to ride a tsunami of cold war paranoia, when the USA first started falling behind in science and technology, as evidenced by Sputnik. New math was supposed to turn out a new crop of eggheads, prepared to keep the

Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: Michael Tobis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:18 PM To: Arthur; edu-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Properties use case If you want to beat me to the punch read this thread (if you dare):

Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kirby urner Rolling the scenario forward several decades, we've had the GNU/Linux revolution and the advent of more generous licensing agreements, complete with a new business ethic that deals

[Edu-sig] Pickling Polyhedra

2006-03-21 Thread kirby urner
OK, so this title is somewhat misleading, because pickling and shelving is one of the things I've not yet gotten around to, vis-a-vis Polyhedra. But let me tell you about some of the other things I've done (classic bait and switch, I realize). First, what data structures to use? Well, no need

Re: [Edu-sig] Pickling Polyhedra

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur
Kirby - You might want to check out Yafray http://www.yafray.org/ It's a powerful raytracers, with ties to Blender (with ties to Python), and a pure XML based SDL. If my free minute, or next lifetime, I am hoping to do a PyGeo to Yafray export in addition to PyGeo to Povray as there is now.

Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur
-Original Message- From: kirby urner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:29 PM To: Arthur; edu-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Brainstorming about GNU Math Another memo I don't think got distributed on this Coast as of yet, perhaps. Math

Re: [Edu-sig] Pickling Polyhedra

2006-03-21 Thread kirby urner
These kinds of synergies between what I do because I like to do it and what I do because I can get paid to do it is how PyGeo gets financed - in a manner of speaking. Or that's at least the story to my wife ;) Art It's a lot like that for me too. I think of it as serious play as in I'm