Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread kirby urner
For example, I don't buy that it's an either/or situation. You seem to think a Klein-reading Euclid-drawing subgenius, properly suspicious of Bucky (maybe armed with a few Bucky jokes) can't suddenly jump up and run over to an Alice workstation, there to play with cute skiing bunnies and other

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread Arthur
kirby urner wrote: For example, I don't buy that it's an either/or situation. You seem to think a Klein-reading Euclid-drawing subgenius, properly suspicious of Bucky (maybe armed with a few Bucky jokes) can't suddenly jump up and run over to an Alice workstation, there to play with cute skiing

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread kirby urner
CS and hard science and Alice being mentioned as an alternative. Willamette University is offering an art major centered around computers. For a lot of kids, the big question is: how do I get a job making Shrek type movies or with Industrial Light and Magic. They hear (correctly) that it

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:56 am Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :) CS and hard science and Alice being mentioned as an alternative. Willamette University is offering an art major centered around computers.

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread kirby urner
So you argree that Alice is overreaching and out-of-line with a statement like Alice is not big on my radar. It's not even a Python project. When it comes to protecting the integrity of CS from watering down, I look to people stronger than you to fight the dumbing down influences. I think

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:07 pm Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :) So you argree that Alice is overreaching and out-of-line with a statement like Alice is not big on my radar. Glad to hear it. It's not

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread ajsiegel
- Original Message - From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:44 pm Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :) Are comments by me, here going to influence outcomes. Probably not. Worth a shot? What's to lose. Let some people go with Alice if they

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread kirby urner
I look to to me less ungenerous than you look to me. Must be just the point of view. Art Anyway, PyGeo is online, free, downloadable, and kids grooving on it (might be several) will have the power themselves to figure the redistro angle, via apt-get or whatever. It's what they know. You,

Re: [Edu-sig] The end is near :)

2006-04-10 Thread Scott David Daniels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alice is not big on my radar. Glad to hear it. It's not even a Python project. It is brought up here and now specifically in the context of it having been noted at U of Mich as competition to and with a Python project,