Re: [Edu-sig] The fate of vpython

2006-10-09 Thread Arthur Siegel
is interested. It is sad to see VPython atrophy right now, but I'm sure that the ideas in it will find a home somewhere, whether the code does or not. [1] http://www.web3d.org/ [2] http://www.avimator.com/ [3] http://orange.blender.org/ --Dethe On 9-Oct-06, at 10:16 AM, Arthur Siegel wrote

Re: [Edu-sig] The fate of vpython

2006-10-09 Thread Arthur Siegel
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:54 -0700, Dethe Elza wrote:My other hope for VPython would be to build it on a more capable 3D system, such as Ogre or Panda3D (Mike Fletcher keeps a large list of such systems: http://www.vrplumber.com/py3d.py). In this scenario, VPython would be an easier entry

Re: [Edu-sig] Using Python as the CS 1 programming language

2006-10-08 Thread Arthur Siegel
Just wanted to make sure that appropriate folks were aware of Titus Brown's request @: http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/oct-06/python-in-cs-1 In short, he is in discussion with Michigan State regarding a faculty position and teaching CS101 with Python has come up in those discussions, and he is

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

2006-10-02 Thread Arthur Siegel
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:00 -0700, kirby urner wrote: handle1 = ['coffee','sugar','cream'] handle2 = handle1 id(handle1) 13645944 id(handle2) 13645944 I always thought that when presenting this it is natural and important - in order for the student to truly get it - to do an as

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

2006-10-02 Thread Arthur Siegel
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 16:04 -0700, kirby urner wrote: Anyway, I would advocate the as opposed to be integrated into such a presentation. Art Actually *duplicating* a piece of memory (wasteful?), to make the same contents reside elsewhere (why?), with its own handles, is considered a

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

2006-10-02 Thread Arthur Siegel
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 16:04 -0700, kirby urner wrote: Or we might import the copy module. Or we might take the whole thing as a slice i.e. newlist = oldlist[:]. I used the list(handle1) alternative purposefully, based on Alex Martelli's position on the matter. The first time I heard him

Re: [Edu-sig] The fate of raw_input() in Python 3000

2006-09-06 Thread Arthur Siegel
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 21:36 -0500, John Zelle wrote: It may not be on that scale, but it would certainly cause me to survey the language landscape again to see if there are better languages for teaching. On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 09:45 -0500, Peter Chase wrote: If you want to expose your