The more I look at it, the more I'm thinking peoples' stereotype of
"engineers" is what's keeping 'em from wanting to tackle any of this
"programming" stuff.
They think of "an engineer" as someone "cold" who lives in a
florescently lit windowless basement, a stereotype, but still pretty
vivid (I'v
d their families, on the basis of our having strong
schools (one of our competitive edges, besides skiing and snow
boarding, great wine and cheese, beer, coffee...).
Kirby
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Gregor Lingl wrote:
>
>
> kirby urner schrieb:
>>
>> This is just t
ings, don't know the publisher exhibiting angle yet, hoping to
give Portlanders something to chew on, in the absence of a PDX OSCON.
http://bridgepdx.org/
Also looking forward to the flying circus at Pycon again (no plane ticket yet):
http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2008/10/pythonic-math.html
You sound like a brave man roberto. You've come to the right place. :)
Kirby
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:11 PM, roberto wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:24 AM, kirby urner wrote:
>> For some of it, I'd expect to switch more into a "music appreciation"
>>
""
if gcd(base, N) == 1: # coprime?
totient = len(totatives(N))
try:
assert pow(base, totient, N) == 1
print("True!: pow(%s, %s, %s) == 1" % (base, totient, N))
except:
print("False!: pow(%s, %s, %s) != 1&qu
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:44 AM, David MacQuigg
wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> I had no idea these little laptops could run Linux. Cool.
>
> -- Dave
Future tell all journalism needed but there's a lot of RedHat under
the hood, Python too slow for an operating system, an agile, needs an
aquarium to play s
> I think many of us who grew up with the "old gestalt" had a hard time with
> the transition to OOP. Maybe the old gestalt still includes administrators,
> but I would be surprised if it includes high-school students. It did include
> engineering students a few years ago, when we had a junior
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, kirby urner wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 AM, David MacQuigg
> wrote:
>
> <<>>
>
> [ watching Obama motorcade on CRT to my left, typing to LCD on my laptop ]
>
>> There may be some misunderstanding as to my purpose
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 AM, David MacQuigg
wrote:
<<>>
[ watching Obama motorcade on CRT to my left, typing to LCD on my laptop ]
> There may be some misunderstanding as to my purpose in writing this chapter.
> It is not a CS1 introduction to OOP. I would recommend Zelle or Goldwasser
> I've got more ideas for offering refresher numeracy courses to adults
> at the Math Forum. A lot of the focus will be instructional game
> playing on LCDs, sometimes with real money involved, definitely
> working towards credentialing i.e. adding scores to transcripts, which
> implies access to
This is just to get junior experimenting with convergence / divergence
on the complex plane. c is our variable.
Per this Wikipedia article (fine to project in class, why not, though
"teacher reading from encyclopedia" shouldn't come off as mechanical):
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbro
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Gregor Lingl wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> Of course there are many more possibilities to realize this, for
> instance to use slice-assignment instead of sets. This would
> require some somewhat opaque index calculations, but be - as far
> as I rember - even faster. Pa
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, michel paul wrote:
> I definitely believe that a good way to improve our current math curriculum
> would be to weave in computational number theory. This would be the 21st
> century answer to 'back to basics'.
>
Yes. OSCON avatar R0ml has puts a strong liberal
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Gregor Lingl wrote:
>
>
> kirby urner schrieb:
>>
>> Yes thank you I completely agree. A stash of sieves, plus data mine
>> this very archive for our earlier work on this topic.
>>
>> My only suggestion is you include a
Hi David --
I've been looking at your PythonOOP.
Why use classes? All programming aside, I think it's a fairly strong
grammatical model of how people think, basically in terms of
noun.adjective (data attribute) and noun.verb() (callable method).
All talk of computer languages aside, we're very n
Awhile back I posted some scripts for defining and populating
'newgeom', a database of polyhedra in Sqlite.[1]
The idea of a classroom database is not new.
Enter
http://myschool/ms_purky/geom/polyhedra/?poly=tetrahedron and get some
view, courtesy of Django.
http://myschool/mr_duffy/geography/u
oncise solution ...
>
> An even more compact albeit slightly slower version would be:
>
> def primes(n):
> s = set(range(3,n+1,2))
> for m in range(3, int(n**.5)+1, 2):
> s.difference_update(range(m*m, n+1, 2*m))
> return [2]*(2<=n) + sorted(s)
>
> Or some
get them to do using set notation, but in math classes it
> seems simply like a formality for describing domains, nothing more. In
> Python, it DOES stuff.
>
> - Michel
>
> 2009/1/14 kirby urner
>
>> Candidates:
>>
>> "Must include" would be li
Candidates:
"Must include" would be like an intersection of many sets in a Venn Diagram,
where we all gave our favorite movies and a very few, such as 'Bagdad Cafe'
or 'Wendy and Lucy' or... proved common to us all (no suggesting those'd be
-- just personal favorites).
In this category, three can
News:
Ian is promoting my Chicago talk, lots of details, feel free to link
to this page if sharing with others, in addition to whatever official
Pycon literature:
http://mentor.sociality.tv/groups/pycontest/wiki/20372/Python_for_Teachers.html
I did some good work with the XO today, working for 4
ld's chief Godel scholars)
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Gregor Lingl wrote:
>
>
> kirby urner schrieb:
>>
>> ...
>> If you go back to the start of the Edu-Sig archives, where I do most
>> of this work, you'll find Tim Peters and Arthur Siegal using a
>
ou would be able to point me in the direction of other
work done in the field (if there is any), since I have only been able
to find work by yourself.
"""
Some of what I wrote back was:
"""
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From: Kirby Urner [mailto:urn...@qwest.net]
Sent: Sunda
Like with my Ubuntu Dell, I have MySQL which I access in a terminal
window (people call that non-GUI but of course the window itself is an
animation, even wiggles, has a frame rate (desktop is OpenGL)), then I
go > manage.py runserver or whatever it is and get the Django thing
going on 127.0.0.1:80
Yes lots of excitement about booting from flash sticks, makes the
laptop itself the peripheral, might have no OS at all when powered
down, takes on "personality" of whichever stick.
Nadine of Friends Peace Teams, doing AVP in Aceh, right through the
Tsunami chapter, was all aglow about memory stic
So I met with an Eee guy @ Chaos place this afternoon, talking about branding:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3182546603/in/photostream/
Given the XO is so identified with OLPC, we were talking MLPA perhaps
-- many laptops per adult.
The idea is you check them out from work, different
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, kirby urner wrote:
> I had a productive meeting with Dr. Bob Fuller, University of
> Nebraska, emeritus, yesterday, a long time associate on that First
> Person Physics proposal to NSF (close, no cigar). He's working on the
> Karplus legacy, in t
I had a productive meeting with Dr. Bob Fuller, University of
Nebraska, emeritus, yesterday, a long time associate on that First
Person Physics proposal to NSF (close, no cigar). He's working on the
Karplus legacy, in turn stemming from Piaget.
http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2009/01/physics-upda
I've continued exploring my "dodeca-cams in the Gorge" scenario, in
connection with "memory banking" the environment as a legitimate
school activity, similar to what my daughter's ecology school did
around Oaks Bottom (Winterhaven, still going strong, but my daughter
is in high school this year, wh
re)).
http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=15.msg27989;topicseen
Kirby
[ see previous messages on edu-sig, public archive, Python community,
for context ]:
Message just prior:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2009-January/008986.html
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:09 AM, gerry_lowr
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada)
wrote:
> Actually, I was not talking about prodigies of any age.
>
> The idea was not about "hitting a pre-teen with ... J", rather it's about
> using J as a workbench
> with which educators can rapidly mentor your average stu
Greetings edu-siggers --
I was pleased to get my second XO yesterday, am lugging junior to an
annual gathering in Southern Oregon today, to share with future movers
and shakers (actually Quakers).
My agenda for 2009 is to stick with the pro-SQL campaign, still
thinking of the latest OSCON, in whi
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> Ken would have disagreed strongly with you. He got IBM to loan a
> school a 360 to teach elementary arithmetic with.
>
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not against this kind of thing. When we
get a prodigy, they sometimes call me in
>
> The idea of a Richard Stallings type geek using the XO as his "main
> laptop" just fills me with evil glee, I'm sorry, such an absurd image.
>
Sorry, Stallman, duh.
Johnny Stallings is a talented actor who plays all parts of King Lear
and Hamlet (though not both plays at once). More on my bl
Yeah, lots of pro J sentiment on this list, including by me, author of
'Jiving in J' (got some help with typos from Kenneth, though I think
there're still a couple): http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html
There's a bit of a disconnect with the XO in that I really do think of
it as for pre-teens
This just in:
http://adage.com/article?article_id=133510
Excerpt:
"""
Joe Deeley, a comedian on the Geek Comedy Tour, laid out a common
opinion, writing in the comments of Laptop Magazine's blog discussion.
"John Lennon probably would have endorsed the OLPC. I seriously doubt
he would have endor
So here's a sort of funny story, true, from Vilnius that time.
I'm in the ConocoPhillips demo of how a big oil company uses Pythonic
tools as a part of a video pipeline (sort of a pun) connecting Ecofisk
to shore managers, big screening room, lots of eye candy, you've
probably seen places like it.
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Jurgis Pralgauskis
wrote:
>>> maybe smb knows of similar initiatives ?
>
> googling around found
> http://www.python-visual-sandbox.de/
>
Excellent set of visualizations, although I bailed just now on
recursive Fibonaccis, a reflex as that's so not the right way
Good seeing the XO firing up again, G1G1 billboards up around town
(says Ron Braithwaite, contributor to ANSI Forth committee work from
long ago **), certainly a big theme in my household this year, as in
under the (plastic) Christmas Tree, as well as a hit at our Solstice
Party on the 20th.
http:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> 2008/12/23 michel paul :
>> http://www.acm.org/press-room/news-releases/obama-education
>>
>> "Computing education benefits all students, not just those interested in
>> pursuing computer science or information technology careers," said Bobb
Very timely Michel, excellent tracking.
I worked a juicy quote into my blog that very day:
http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2008/12/more-musings.html
Given Portland, I'm needing to "sell Python" in connection with GIS
topics (PostGIS, ESRI... Ecotrust), i.e. the ambient culture is really
into urb
a
preschool specialist or administrator, although I did at one time
evaluate products aimed at this market for McGraw-Hill (a long time
ago).
Kirby Urner
@ Fine Grind (CFN)
Portland, Oregon
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Jurgis Pralgauskis
wrote:
> also would be a good to have interactive tutorial, w
Perfect!
I kneaded it in to make more of my Math Makeover propaganda (PR <--
backwards R).
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/3121058142_00debdf421_o.png
Another campaign that could use it: ~M!
(~M! stands for "not math!", or "math, not!" i.e. whatever this
computer algebra is called, we migh
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:18 PM, David MacQuigg
wrote:
> At 09:59 AM 12/13/2008 -0500, csev wrote:
>
>>I generally do not like IDLE - it uses a socket which can get messed
>>up, bugs in the student's code seem to mess up the IDE, when a program
>>needs to open a data file - it is hard to force IDL
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:16 PM, kirby urner wrote:
>> Edward Cherlin's insistent pointing to the XO is helping turn some
>> wheels on my end...
>
> It doesn't actually have to be an XO. We have projects
Edward Cherlin's insistent pointing to the XO is helping turn some
wheels on my end...
Way cool that Gibson Guitar was a sponsor of OSCON that time, shows
how geeks are being seen from a Nashville angle: have laptop will
travel, the solo musician model, except we also form bands. Really,
so many
>
> And I don't understand why the quoted message appeared to be a reply
> to what I wrote when not a single line of quoted text was something I
> wrote.
>
>
> André
My apologies for generating such confusion.
This is what I was ranting about, not something you wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008
a ray tracer, a real time graphics
engine, a well stocked library of math modules, lots of fun IDEs. The
only really big change is the advent of Py3k and its more
Unicode-aware design. Plus the new IDEs are looking pretty
revolutionary.
Kirby
OCN.4d
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM, kirby urner wrote:
Count me a skeptic that there's anything unattractive about Python
that's to blame for keeping it from wider use in school systems.
Once you go down that road, of soliciting off-the-cuff feedback,
you'll get endless nonsense about making it case insensitive, adding a
"schoolish math" division sy
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
<< SNIP >>
>> lest
>> you get caught up in dinosaur flavors of "should we allow calculators
>> in math class?" kinds of debates (nothing at all about computer
>> languages), angry mud slinging that's been going on for decades and
>> going no
Ah so...
My focus on the constructor as a way to trigger the initial division
(complete with gcd), was blinding me to the role of the __div__
operator in gluing the things together. I need to get back to those
continued fraction studies then, using my new understanding.
Thank you for opening my
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:47 PM, kirby urner wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> fractions.Fraction, on the other hand, barfs on anything but integers,
> isn't trying to be all divisions to all possible types, isn't
> pretending this is Mathematica or a generic CAS.
&g
FYI...
http://www.tiac.net/~sw/2008/10/Hilbert/
(I like that they're called Hilbert *curves*)
Kirby
w/ thx to David Koski (geometer) for alerting me.
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or watched it on
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of my (Quaker brand) futurism.
Kirby
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From: kirby urner
Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: The 'Certified' Teacher Myth
To: Michael Paul Goldenberg
Cc
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> Fortunately Python supports a way of overloading binary operators
> where it is sufficient if *one* of the operands knows how to deal with
> the other. So Fraction(3, 4) * 2j happily returns 1.5j. You don't have
> to teach Fra
Having watched the 20M video and enjoyed it (especially the ER part --
work in hospitals) I'm thinking this could roll in to my Python for
Teachers in March in Chicago. I've always wanted to see VPython
treated that way, as one more panel in a set of panels.
Kirby
>
> I'm creating the editor / c
2008/12/13 michel paul :
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, kirby urner wrote:
>
> What frustrates me in class though, is I'll get low on the projected
> screen, having entered a bunch of session variables, identified a lot
> of stuff, and then I'm sort of stuck to the l
Per very early in the edu-sig archive, I've always found IDLE both
necessary and sufficient for most of my teaching needs, whereas in
development I've used Vim (which I suck at), random editors and tools,
less Eclipse than you might think, Wing. However, for quick scripts,
IDLE works on the job as
Here's a way of giving students more of a sense of Python's "privacy layers".
We're obviously drawing on experience with signage, various
prohibitions likely already tuned in, e.g.:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3051792354/
Here's the diagram:
class Snake:
def __init__(self):
nces+mdipierro=cs.depaul@python.org
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> To: edu-sig@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] computer algebra
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 20
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> There are different schools of thought about this actually. I don't
> think pride comes into it.
Well, *my* school is quite pompous about it. We think "open oh" is for sissies.
But that's just us (quirky
So I've been yakking with Ian (tizard.stanford.edu) re the new
fractions.py, installed in Standard Library per 2.6, saw it demoed at
a recent user group meeting (PPUG).
Python's __div__ is similar to Mathematica's computer algebra notion
of division in that you're free to divide any type by any ty
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> The occasion yesterday was the Program for the Future conference at
> the Tech Museum (San Jose CA), Adobe Systems, and Stanford, and the
> celebration of the 40th anniversary of Doug Engelbart's Mother of All
2008/12/10 michel paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
<< SNIP >>
> There is a big contrast between doing math the traditional way, solving
> equations by manipulating symbols in some boolean assertion to isolate a
> variable, vs. thinking computationally - creating sets of functions to model
> concepts. I
I like "schoolish math", will plan to recycle that.
As for the rest of it, trademark Paul F. in being so verbose, will
leave it to other analysts to summarize it for me this time. Good
seein' ya Paul.
For those wishing to lurk on my "inner doings" (acting locally in
Portland), I refer you to thi
Re outsourcing, here I am in the capital of open source (Portland, per
Christian Science Monitor that time -- San Jose uncomfortable with
that, stealing back OSCON -- OK, OK, their turn, we agree), and yet
when push comes to shove, there's a rather tiny geek culture.
I find myself advising Symmetr
Hey, great analysis you guys!
Erratum: said livingroom.com but meant livingroomtheater.com , picks
up where McMenamins leaves off in some ways, in taking it further with
the adult content. I shot some Photostream on the way back from my
breakfast with Allegra (Bucky Fuller's daughter), basically
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:26 AM, David MacQuigg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 08:22 AM 12/8/2008 -0800, kirby urner wrote:
>
>>I think you're spot on about the "advantage over the poor" thing, as our
>>stronger public schools have a parent base that will f
achers and students I have asked. I
> suspect it has something to do with requiring all kids to have their own
> computers, not wanting the rich to have an advantage over the poor, etc.
> I've thought about teaching high school myself, but the bureaucracy seems
> overwhelming.
&
de pile as the
only sole responsible reader and writer thereof. The days of the solo code
pile are over, though of course we still have time alone in which to
collaborate asynchronously.
Kirby Urner
4Dsolutions.net
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In commemoration of Python 3.0's official final release, just 3 or so
hours ago, I append a Python 3.0 program.
OK, so it's really just a dictionary with a new style print statement,
so runs in 2.x just as easily (change the print statement).
Plus it's all Latin-1 so that's not really so futurist
:58 AM, roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/12/1 kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > So I just learned we've gotten a green light for Python for Teachers
> > already.
> >
> > I've started circulating promotional materials already:
So I just learned we've gotten a green light for Python for Teachers
already.
I've started circulating promotional materials already:
http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1863073&tstart=0
Kirby
PS: anyone have one of these Acers? Good deal? Ubuntu even?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[
My preferred way of talking about translation is in conjunction with
rotation and scaling, as like the three major things we might do with
shapes that are angle-preserving (not just surface angles, but also
central angles).
My Python polyhedron class will implement these (rotation, translation
and
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:02 PM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> So once we agree we want some k
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So once we agree we want some kind of computer lab, the question is, what
>> kind?
>
> That's a pretty s
So I got a lot of reality checks visiting OSU in Corvallis yesterday,
a campus I've visited in other contexts, but this was my first time to
more central campus buildings that I can recall, parked off Jefferson
near Monroe, went to special collections in Valley Library for a visit
to the Doug Strai
ound a table):
https://wiki.koumbit.net/Remote_Pair_Programming
http://andrzejonsoftware.blogspot.com/2008/02/remote-pair-programming.html
etc.
Kirby
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Charles Cossé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Kirby,
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:20 PM, kirby urner &
So once we agree we want some kind of computer lab, the question is, what kind?
They already come in many flavors, one of my favorite being the
virtual hosts approach, where all software and lessons for the day
come preloaded such that you experience a properly equipped distro
right out of the sta
Very useful, thank you. I'll be poking around for rich data sets we
might use in Python classes.
Kirby
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Ajoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ask prog: Where can I find lists of data in useful computer formats? ie.
> wordlist, world cities, populations, etc.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:38 AM, David MacQuigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:10 PM 11/7/2008 -0800, kirby urner wrote:
>
>>Ruby also good at integrating OpenGL, expect lots of good curriculum
>>writing for that language already in the pipeline.
>
> Wouldn't
Once again, I was so happy to have Python + VPython handy for my
geometrical studies, what brought me to Python in the first place, by
way of Java, trying to write scene description language for a ray
tracer at first (POV-Ray, still using it), then VRML (today x3d), then
finally, real time (VPython
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, not that hard, agreed. I think we're in the right headspace, here on
>> edu-sig, re teaching physi
I am largely responsible for the page as it currently exists, in terms
of content, but threw that together a long time ago by now, around the
time the site went from cvs to svn, and before the face lift wherein
the new twin-snake logo was phased in.
Since that time, I've suggested we work out a ne
Here's an admittedly somewhat odd-ball pass time: create a generator
that hides in "x" in some deeply nested data structure, then come up
with a key for retrieving that "x" (might be a buried treasure!).
For example:
If:
x = "Yes!"
maze =
[(),(),{'a':0},([[{'a':1,'b':{('a','b'):{('a','b'):[[
In preparing for this IEEE talk I'm delivering on Nov 4 (USA election
night) @ Armory, venue for this play I'm involved with, I'm looking at
"namespaces" and "dot notation" as integral concepts within
contemporary philosophy (where I have much background).
For example, early in the 1900s, the acad
ose to compete in that arena
-- describes my situation at least.
I'll be interested to hear more about what develops in those projects I
learned about at the most recent OSCON, as many of those *were* open source,
just not based anywhere close to Portland. As you might imagine, I have a
har
Here's a pointer to some related writings @ Math Forum, which I used to tell
Arthur S. (this archive) was more like "center ring" in my circus, i.e.
where math teachers meet irrespective of caring about geek subculture,
computers etc.:
http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1845616&tstart=0
We do quite a bit with vectors in my Saturday Academy classes,
proposing to cover some of these topics in a Pycon tutorial so geeks
might see how we do it. Lots of emphasis on real time versus render
time animation techniques, basically game engine versus ray tracer,
using VPython and POV-Ray resp
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:06 AM, bob gailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<< SNIP >>
>> I'm glad to see Iverson amongst Babbage and Whitehead.
>
> Turing Award lecture, Notation as a Tool of Thought.
>
>> In 1974 I was
>> i
I'm guessing most of us on this list aren't using Scapy so you might
get a quicker answer if you found a bevy of Scapy users on some Scapy
list. I assume you know about sys.path and your gnuplot is on it?
Not an expert on anything Visual Studio though, as my Visual FoxPro
was never subsumed by tha
ml etc.
More in my blogs if curious.
Urner out.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:25 PM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings edu-siggers --
>
> I'm here at CubeSpace at Python 3K release party (2.6 also), Jason
> just having introduced the program, already getting
Greetings edu-siggers --
I'm here at CubeSpace at Python 3K release party (2.6 also), Jason
just having introduced the program, already getting into new advance
formatting conventions. I'm here with a sponsor, introducing to PDX
open source culture, what better way than PPUG.
I'll be giving my p
book a mention there either actually so if
> you find out who the maintainer is, please let the list know.
>
> J
>
> On 10 Oct 2008, at 16:27, kirby urner wrote:
>
>> Right, and then there was that cool thesis out of Greece that went by
>> recently, would like to get
Right, and then there was that cool thesis out of Greece that went by
recently, would like to get that nailed as well. Best wishes in your
quest.
Kirby
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Gregor Lingl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> does anybody know who is currently maintaing the Edu-Sig
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:52 AM, kirby urner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> I think rank and file math teachers over-hype this "beauty" business,
> then hypocritically suppress fractals pre-college, even in the face of
> obvious public demand and cle
2008/10/7 Matt K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm changing pace slightly, after making 2 points:
>
> (1) Dot notation does exist in Maths. Its just called "subscript" notation
> instead. But its the same thing. I try to make a habit of using subscripts
> (and sub-subscripts) as much as possible because i
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:05 PM, DiPierro, Massimo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree with this
>
> 1. The importance of 'computational thinking' as a math standard
> 2. Python as a vehicle for this
>
> But it is important to make a distinction:
>
> a) a math formula represents a relation bet
>
> Continued fractions do, especially:
>
> IDLE 1.2.1
> >>> from __future__ import division
> >>> 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1))
> 0.61904761904761907
> >>> 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1))
> 0.61538461538461542
> >>> 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 + 1/(1 +
[ they have been lately, yes, though if you go back in the archive you'll
find more succinct ones ]
>
> On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:56 AM, kirby urner wrote:
>
>> What passes for "pure math" would be something to study in college, after
>> getting a broad samplin
on Sesame
Street) and uploading 'em to YouTube, for peers to admire (peers thousands
of miles away perhaps -- no problemo) is a big part of the action.
(a) FYI here's the bio of Kirby that went out to subscribers:
An IEEE Oregon Section event
"R. Buckminster Fuller: The History (and
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