Laura Creighton wrote:
> (cc'd to Peter Hansen, because it is of interest and also mentions him - lac)
(Thanks Laura... I've temporarily subscribed to edu-sig in case my
comments/opinions can be of value to someone. If that concerns you,
don't worry, I won't stay long! )
> In a message of Fri,
(cc'd to Peter Hansen, because it is of interest and also mentions him - lac)
In a message of Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:31:03 MST, Trent Oliphant writes:
>This brings up an interesting discussion point, one in which I would be
>extremely interested personally: How do you help students (or yourself)
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Trent Oliphant
>
> I have thought about writing my own - because I think there is a real need
> for
> it. I am a lone programmer - entirely self taught - and this is a
> daunting
> task. I feel conf
> I know it may seem that I am talking about an IDE - but even those (at
> least the ones available for Python that I have seen) assume that you
> already know how to do a project. So I get overwhelmed. I want them to
> work for me - but they just haven't yet.
To some extent I think you *are*
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:31:03PM -0700, Trent Oliphant wrote:
> Toby Donaldson wrote:
> >
> > One thing CS departments could do is offer service-oriented software
> > engineering courses. It's clear that many people nowadays learn to
> > program on their own, and run into well-known difficulties
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 12:31 -0700, Trent Oliphant wrote:
>
> This brings up an interesting discussion point, one in which I would
> be
> extremely interested personally: How do you help students (or
> yourself) move
> from writing scripts, functions, classes, modules etc. to writing a
> larger
Toby Donaldson wrote:
>
> One thing CS departments could do is offer service-oriented software
> engineering courses. It's clear that many people nowadays learn to
> program on their own, and run into well-known difficulties once their
> programs get too big. Those people would probably appreciate
