On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM, kirby urner wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>>
>> << SNIP >>
>>
>>> I am working on how to teach CS ideas in third grade using tools such
>>> as Etoys Smalltalk, UCBLogo, and
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM, kirby urner wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
>
> << SNIP >>
>
>> I am working on how to teach CS ideas in third grade using tools such
>> as Etoys Smalltalk, UCBLogo, and Turtle Art, all of which are packaged
>> in Sugar for the OLPC X
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> I am working on how to teach CS ideas in third grade using tools such
> as Etoys Smalltalk, UCBLogo, and Turtle Art, all of which are packaged
> in Sugar for the OLPC XO and other Linuces. Etoys and UCBLogo are
> available for nu
I don't know the details on this issue, but I am aware of several more
general problems.
One is that nobody knows what CS is or should be. I got into it before
there were CS departments, from Foundations of Mathematics,
specifically Incompleteness and Undecidability and Non-Standard
Arithmetic. Th
In a message of Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:07:53 CDT, Jeff Rush writes:
>I'd love to get into the head of some of these decision makers - what
>wierd view do they have of CS? They must imagine it being some luxury
>topic, some elective nice to have like Italian for advanced students but
>not something
I just want to offer a little more background on the AP situation.
There used to be two AP CS courses: AP CS A was and remains roughly
equivalent to a semester-long college intro to programming in Java and
AP CS AB was roughly equivalent to a data structures course. The AB
course was not offered b
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Jeff Rush wrote:
> Lloyd Hugh Allen wrote:
>> I'm a math teacher who uses python for personal purposes, but the cs
>> teacher in my building told me that the higher level cs ab ap was axed
>> for this year - that could contribute to lower enrollment. Apparently
>> a
Lloyd Hugh Allen wrote:
> I'm a math teacher who uses python for personal purposes, but the cs
> teacher in my building told me that the higher level cs ab ap was axed
> for this year - that could contribute to lower enrollment. Apparently
> ap italian was also on the chopping block until the gov't
I'm a math teacher who uses python for personal purposes, but the cs
teacher in my building told me that the higher level cs ab ap was axed
for this year - that could contribute to lower enrollment. Apparently
ap italian was also on the chopping block until the gov't of italy
ponied upif only t
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Helene Martin wrote:
>> Our user group PPUG has kept bringing up Sage (the free Python
>> product) and the Sage community as one to get work with. But our
>> ranks include mostly family guys or up and coming private sector,
>> precious few in the teaching professi
> Our user group PPUG has kept bringing up Sage (the free Python
> product) and the Sage community as one to get work with. But our
> ranks include mostly family guys or up and coming private sector,
> precious few in the teaching professions.
>
> As you say, there's a big cultural disconnect betw
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Helene Martin wrote:
> I don't think members of the K-12 CS education community were entirely
> comfortable with the way the article you quote interpreted the
> research or even the research itself. For example, the survey is of
> self-identified CS teachers rather
I don't think members of the K-12 CS education community were entirely
comfortable with the way the article you quote interpreted the
research or even the research itself. For example, the survey is of
self-identified CS teachers rather than of schools. Mark Guzdial had
a good post on the subject
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:44 PM, kirby urner wrote:
<< SNIP >>
> The reason I say gateways is kids increasingly enter high school
> already knowing quite a bit of the algebra/geometry stuff, e.g. our
> geek Hogwarts Winterhaven placed freshman directly into math-intensive
> chemistry, with moles
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jeff Rush wrote:
> wesley chun wrote:
>> AP CS Courses (and Students) on the Decline, CSTA Survey Finds
>>
>> This spring, the 2009 CSTA National Secondary Computer Science Survey
>> collected responses from some 1,100 high school Computer Science
>> teachers. The r
wesley chun wrote:
> AP CS Courses (and Students) on the Decline, CSTA Survey Finds
>
> This spring, the 2009 CSTA National Secondary Computer Science Survey
> collected responses from some 1,100 high school Computer Science
> teachers. The results: only 65 percent reported that their schools
> of
AP CS Courses (and Students) on the Decline, CSTA Survey Finds
This spring, the 2009 CSTA National Secondary Computer Science Survey
collected responses from some 1,100 high school Computer Science
teachers. The results: only 65 percent reported that their schools
offer introductory or pre-AP Comp
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