Let me just add a couple notes ...
I have used Zelle's book for teaching and I think it is great. My
students were doing some pretty exciting graphics by week three. One
thing I like about it is its size. It has an appropriate amount of
material for a single course and is clearly at the
Thanks to all for the discussion. I think I'm going with Zelle, with
some Tk handouts for the graphics.
Regards to all,
Peter Chase
Sul Ross State University
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Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a Logo thing.
Are you willing to expand?
What is the importance
On 26 Feb 2006 at 9:04, Arthur wrote:
Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a Logo thing.
Are
Daniel Ajoy wrote:
On 26 Feb 2006 at 9:04, Arthur wrote:
Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly?
That is without the need to use variables (with the help of
forks, hooks and the like)?
Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge.
I am guessing it's a
On 26 Feb 2006 at 8:55, kirby urner wrote:
I just wanted to verify the claim that some Python modules
really incorporate J semantics.
numpy incorporates the idea of 'rank' and 'axes' much the way J or other
array based languages do i.e. you can shape numbers to have however many
axes
Here is something I got from:
http://www.unb.ca/web/transpo/mynet/Iverson_APL.htmThanks Daniel, interesting paper.Teaching resources around J have grown since that 1991 date. Roger Hui's 'idiosyncratic introduction to J' is one of my favorites. The ability to write 'labs' in J, interactive
Yeah J is fun. If Python is the least weird, J is maybe the most weird language I know (know).J is one of those languages that rewards cleverness -- the kind of cleverness that leaves other coders in the dust sometimes (or oneself, when feeling less inspired).
I've got some writings on it linked
The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are based on J's array semantics and behaviour. So in some sense, you can teach J programming concepts by using Numpy.
Have you you tried Numpy?--
kirby urner wrote:
SO: Any recommendations as to course textbooks? Or just go with
Zelle
and/or O'Reilly's latest wood rat book?
- The students presumably have had programming courses already.
- I would think that K-12 students would be happier if they could
Paul Barrett wrote:
The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations,
Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and
hopeful last - are based on J's array semantics and behaviour. So in
some sense, you can teach J programming concepts by using Numpy.
Chuck, based on the relation of J to NumPy as expressed by Paul
and the context of Peter's opening message of this thread, to which
I originally replied, imho, my reply was on topic ... of course, biased am I.
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On 25 Feb 2006 at 20:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:18:47 -0500
From: Paul Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric,
Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are
based on J's
On 2/24/06, Peter Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm teaching some prospective K-12 teachers this summer and propose to
introduce them to Python.
peter,
i've been teaching programming to people (kids, adults, everywhere in
between) for 24 years now. when i learned python back in 1997, i
On 2/24/06, Peter Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm teaching some prospective K-12 teachers this summer and propose to
introduce them to Python. Reasons are numerous
- It's the least weird language I know.
- It offers so many programming styles.
- And not least, it's free
SO: Any
Peter Chase wrote:
I'm teaching some prospective K-12 teachers this summer and propose to
introduce them to Python
SO: Any recommendations as to course textbooks? Or just go with Zelle
and/or O'Reilly's latest wood rat book?
- The students presumably have had programming courses
have many J'ers willing to guide.
regards,
gerry
If your only tool is a hammer, all of your problems tend to look like nails.
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Andre ... before you take offense, you might want to ask Kirby his opinion of J.
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From: Andre Roberge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:47 PM
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You may want to teach J first, in addition, or instead.
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