Re: [Edu-sig] programming skills and IQ tests..

2010-05-07 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
Thanks to all, especially Jeremy. still now I don't have time to read everything, but problem is complex, I agree. as those students seem nearly unable to understand math (so I guess generally aren't used to problem solving). and they are ususally quite unpatient.. = I'll

Re: [Edu-sig] programming skills and IQ tests..

2010-05-06 Thread Bill Punch
There are a number of papers on the topic of measuring programmer aptitude. In general, I would strongly recommend looking through the Psychology of Programming Interest Group (PPIG, http://www.ppig.org). One paper in particular attracted a lot of attention about 4 years ago: Testing

Re: [Edu-sig] programming skills and IQ tests..

2010-05-06 Thread Andy Judkis
I think this is a really interesting topic. I've been teaching a general here's how computers work class to all the 10th graders in my school for about 6 years now. Like Jurgis, I find that about 30% of the kids just don't get it. I'm just resigned to that, and my goal is to have them not

[Edu-sig] programming skills and IQ tests..

2010-05-05 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
Hello, I think one of best ways to teach programming is with examples (of course with a bit of theory explanation). I'd like to test my students' general ability to undersnand examples. Because I am confused, is it my fault or their laziness, or sth else, that some of them (nearly 30%)

Re: [Edu-sig] programming skills and IQ tests..

2010-05-05 Thread kirby urner
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Jurgis Pralgauskis jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I think one of best ways to teach programming is with examples (of course with a bit of theory explanation). I'd like to test my students' general ability to undersnand examples. Because I am