If I understand correctly, your near Fremont CA.  I had a two week turn around 
in Watsonville for Calibration. The charge was about $100. I drove it there. 
Saved the postage charges. Don't forget to call  to obtain authorization for 
the return. It's also a good time to get hardware updates. Ted wp4cw.

On Apr 9, 2017 9:16 AM, Mike Harris <mike.har...@horizon.co.fk> wrote:
>
> Immediate apologies, this is a tad long but hopefully interesting. 
>
> My K3 has the new synths (2), K144XV with REF Lock option and all is 
> well without doing the KREF3 modification. I guess this is an it either 
> works or it don't situation. 
>
> With respect to the post about off frequency, not a simple answer. 
>
> Firstly accuracy and resolution or precision are not to be confused, one 
> doesn't imply the other. The K3 display may read to 1Hz but that doesn't 
> mean it is accurate to 1Hz. If folks in a net all set their various 
> digital displays to the same frequency it doesn't mean they are all on 
> the same frequency. 
>
> As has been mentioned there is a perfectly good method of adjusting 
> calibration detailed in the handbook using WWV. It doesn't directly tune 
> or otherwise adjust the reference oscillator (TCXO) but lets whatever is 
> involved with controlling the synths what the reference frequency really 
> is so that the error can compensated for mathematically. That is my 
> understanding. I have been using this WWV method for the past nine years 
> and was convinced that the TXCO was probably drifting with age and have 
> often said that the CONFIG: REF CAL is not a one off adjustment. This 
> unfortunately turns out not to be the whole story. 
>
> Now it has to be said, the TXCO does drift, shock, horror. The high 
> stability option is described as being +/-1ppm but actually seems to 
> achieve 0.5ppm, at least mine does. How do I know this? I don't have a 
> frequency counter, or at least I didn't and in fact you don't need one 
> as will be discovered later. What I do have is the K3 external reference 
> frequency lock option fitted and recently purchased a Leo Bodnar GPS 
> disciplined reference clock which provides the necessary 10MHz drive for 
> the ext ref option. With a new toy you have go to play and what I 
> discovered follows. 
>
> With the GPS source up and running, turning on the K3 and enabling the 
> external ref feature the REF CAL measured TXCO frequency will be 
> displayed, counted by the ref lock module. This frequency will be seen 
> to change with warm up. My TXCO has a positive drift of approx 26Hz+/- a 
> couple in the first three minutes, for the next 30 minutes it drifts a 
> further 6Hz. Thereafter it slowly drifts until after four hours it tops 
> out at +57Hz or so and by this measurement method stops drifting. 
>
> However, there is more. At the same time as noting the REF CAL frequency 
> every minute, for the first hour, I also recorded the front panel (FP) 
> temperature. This started at 23C and over the measurement period 
> increased to 38C. It was observed that the rise in FP temp and the drift 
> follow a similar trajectory. As would be expected. 
>
> I have monitored the REF CAL frequency for a couple of months now and 
> note that the TXCO drift on my unit always maxes out at more or less the 
> same reading. 
>
> I have reached the conclusion that if at least two hours of warm up are 
> allowed and a WWV cal operation is then performed you will be in a 
> pretty good place with respect to total drift and subsequent overall 
> frequency (dial) accuracy. 
>
> It is easy to discover the pattern and extent of the drift of the TXCO 
> in your K3 without any external measuring equipment, external ref locks 
> or such. 
>
> 1. From cold tune to a WWV frequency you will be able to receive 
> reliably for a few hours. Higher the better. 
> 2. Wait 5 minutes or you will be chasing a moving target. 
> 3. Perform a REF CAL and note the reading. 
> 4. Perform a REF CAL every half hour, less if you feel like it and note 
> the readings. 
> 5. Eventually the reading will really slow down and more or less stop 
> changing. 
> 6. Choose a reading that indicates that the bulk of the drift has 
> happened, (1-2 hours) 
> 7. Set REF CAL to that reading and sleep well. Good enough for HF. 
>
> Given the highest and lowest frequency readings a further experiment can 
> be performed to discover the consequences of the TXCO drift on dial 
> accuracy. It only takes a few minutes. 
>
> 1. Set REF CALL to the lowest recorded frequency and tune the K3 to a 
> stable test frequency, I used my XG3, note the "dial" reading in fine 
> frequency display, 3 digits after the decimal point. I used the CW auto 
> spot feature to do the final tune. 
> 2. Set REF CAL to the highest recorded frequency and retune the K3 as 
> above noting the "dial" frequency. 
>
> The lowest to highest REF CAL frequency is the total TXCO drift in Hz. 
> The lowest to highest "dial" frequency will indicate the consequence of 
> that TXCO drift in Hz. You will be pleased to note that the two do not 
> match. The K3 tuned frequency change is rather less than the TXCO drift. 
>
> Reset the REF CAL reading to that you previously chose to be your K3's 
> sweat spot. 
>
> The above shows why I was wrong in relating the REF CAL frequency 
> changes to TXCO ageing. In reality it all comes down to warm up time. 
>
> I hope this was worth the read. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> Mike VP8NO 
>
>
>
> On 09/04/2017 05:51, Roger via Elecraft wrote: 
> > KREF3MDKT This modification increases the output levels from the KREF3 
> > Reference Oscillato
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