- after we picked ourselves
up off of the floor.
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 14 volt
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 14 volt batteries?
Right on! For about a year, I've been running the radios in my shack from a
10Ah LiFePO4 battery from Bioenne Power. I never see the voltage
On 8/20/2017 7:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> More recent battery technology have produced a number of batteries with
> different voltages, but most ham gear has stayed with the voltage
> commonly available in a vehicular mobile environment. That is just "the
> fact of the matter".
Commercial
4S Lipos.
Lipo cells are 3.7 V nominal. So 4 in series would be 14.8 Volts.
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...nr4c. bill
> On Aug 20, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Robert Sands wrote:
>
> Why are we stuck with 12 volt batteries of all types when the rigs are
> optimal at 13.6 or 14 volts?
Most rigs are designed for a range (13.8V +- 15%). IMD3 are better at higher
voltage, but excellent IMD3 with predistortion can make this point moot.
Many computer chips operate at 1.5V, and conversion from 12V is normal.
Expert amp 1.3k operates at full power from 90 to 270V. Apache 8000 has
On 8/20/2017 5:46 PM, Chris Parfitt wrote:
I agree, LiFePO4 4S batteries should be charged to around 13.2, with 12.6 volts
being nominal.
14.2V for full charge is more like it. And you're right that they should
NOT be charged much above that, which is why chargers specifically
designed for
On 8/20/2017 5:21 PM, Tox wrote:
Many "12v" batteries are actually 13.2-13.8 when fully charged
Not after you've disconnected the charger. And the voltage drops VERY
quickly as they discharge. With 90% charge remaining, they're close to 12V!
73, Jim K9YC
Right on! For about a year, I've been running the radios in my shack
from a 10Ah LiFePO4 battery from Bioenne Power. I never see the voltage
drop below 13V on the K3 voltmeter.
73, Jim K9YC
On 8/20/2017 6:08 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
Look at LiFePO batteries. The charging needs are specific
Bob,
For a long time, rigs were designed for the nominal voltage obtained
from a fully charged Lead Acid battery which is 13.6 to 13.8 volts when
fully charged. Think automotive batteries and mobile operation - that
has been the design point for transceivers in the 100 watt and under class.
Look at LiFePO batteries. The charging needs are specific (meaning
you'll have to make an investment), but they'll maintain voltage (13v+)
until they can't, a very sharp knee.
Rick nhc
On 8/20/2017 5:19 PM, Robert Sands wrote:
Why are we stuck with 12 volt batteries of all types when the
I agree, LiFePO4 4S batteries should be charged to around 13.2, with 12.6 volts
being nominal. LiPo 4S batteries have a nominal voltage of 14.8, but are fully
charged at 16.8—too high for most transceivers. I have seen examples of people
using various methods to decrease the voltage under 16.
Many "12v" batteries are actually 13.2-13.8 when fully charged
On Sunday, August 20, 2017, Robert Sands wrote:
> Why are we stuck with 12 volt batteries of all types when the rigs are
> optimal at 13.6 or 14 volts? Anyone know of a 14 volt battery mfg? My
> search yields
Why are we stuck with 12 volt batteries of all types when the rigs are
optimal at 13.6 or 14 volts? Anyone know of a 14 volt battery mfg? My
search yields zero.
Bob K7VO
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