Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-08 Thread Edward R Cole
There is another caveat to keep in mind when using the K3 in transverter mode. Sensitivity will be subject to the ham band BPFs, so a preamp may be needed if the "IF" freq. falls well outside the BPF passband unless a general coverage module (KBPF3) is installed. The KBPF3 works fine if the KXV3

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-07 Thread Eric Tichansky NO3M
There is another caveat to keep in mind when using the K3 in transverter mode. Sensitivity will be subject to the ham band BPFs, so a preamp may be needed if the "IF" freq. falls well outside the BPF passband unless a general coverage module (KBPF3) is installed. The KBPF3 works fine if the K

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-07 Thread Edward R Cole
It would be even easier if one could use a 10MHz IF for LF. For this the K3 and KX3 (when the code is written) xverter settings could be set to XVRF=0MHz XVIF=10MHz. This way the accurate 10MHz reference, already applied to the reference input to the K3 could be used as the local oscillator in the

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-06 Thread WW2R Elecraft
external transverter Dave G4fre Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 08:02:50 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz To: Edward R Cole Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Transmit is not presently allowed below 160 m since low-pass filtering would not be adequate. We'd have to provi

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Edward R Cole wrote: > I tried keying the KX3 at 495 and 508 KHz and get BND END warning > (probably because it is below edge of 160m). How do you defeat the > out of band restriction? Transmit is not presently allowed below 160 m since low-pass filtering would not be adequate. We'd have to pr

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-06 Thread Edward R Cole
I did an experiment with 600-meter transceive on the KX3 (around 500 kHz). With the ATU installed, which provides additional filtering for the broadcast band, the transmitter put out about 0.5 to 1.0 watts. But additional low-pass filtering would be required, and as noted above, receiver sensitivit

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz [correction]

2012-09-05 Thread Dominic Baines
Wayne, Please can you make the KX3 RX front end circuit diagram available, possibly with the PCB mask, even if only personally? I am convinced it must be possible to bring the 472/500 signal in and bypass the filtering. I already have used with considerable success a 7 pole filtering on other SDR

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz [correction]

2012-09-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
Matt Maguire wrote: >> Therefore, the KX3 is not really usable below around 1500kHz. I wrote: > It is usable for receive, but not for transmit. > > The high-pass filter starts rolling things off around 1.3 to 1.5 > kHz Er, that's "MHz". Wayne ___

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Edward R Cole
Did you read in that article how a KXV3 module is used in the K3 to bypass the high pass filtering used to protect the T/R PIN diodes? The KX3 has the same filtering, but no possibility for a KXV3 module. Therefore, the KX3 is not really usable below around 1500kHz. If you want to get onto the

[Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Edward R Cole
Dom, M1KTA, writes: "Anyone tried the K3 option with a KX3 on 472/500KHz yet? http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/k3qtx_v2_pa3cw.pdf Will be trying but interested to hear anyone's success/failure stories. --- Dom, I have been running my K3/10 on 495-510-KHz for over a year. I run in the TES

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
Matt Maguire wrote: > Did you read in that article how a KXV3 module is used in the K3 to > bypass the high pass filtering used to protect the T/R PIN diodes? > The KX3 has the same filtering, but no possibility for a KXV3 > module. Therefore, the KX3 is not really usable below around 1500kH

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Dominic Baines
Matt, yes understood, transverter needed...but with KX3 not seen a circuit diagram yet, block diagram yes... wonder why that is still secret squirrel however I wonder if the offer from Wayne for the 160m IF went anywhere. I read that the KX3 is 'deaf' if you go through the normal RX chain at MF

Re: [Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Matt Maguire
Did you read in that article how a KXV3 module is used in the K3 to bypass the high pass filtering used to protect the T/R PIN diodes? The KX3 has the same filtering, but no possibility for a KXV3 module. Therefore, the KX3 is not really usable below around 1500kHz. If you want to get onto the

[Elecraft] 472KHz/500KHz

2012-09-04 Thread Dominic Baines
Anyone tried the K3 option with a KX3 on 472/500KHz yet? http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/k3qtx_v2_pa3cw.pdf Will be trying but interested to hear anyone's success/failure stories. 72 Dom M1KTA -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/472KHz-500KHz-tp7562101.ht