Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-24 Thread Chris R
For those who might be interested, http://kf7p.com/KF7P/Welcome.html sells Morgan Arrestors and many other excellent products for towers, entrance panels, grounding, ferrite chokes, etc. He also has an excellent set of references on his Tech page. No, no connection to the company; just a satisfied

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Ken G Kopp
UG-1185's have captive center pins. 73 ! Ken - K0PP On Jan 23, 2018 15:28, wrote: Pin retraction may depend on your coax. I use a number of N connectors and I have not seen this occur with Belden 8267 or with the various sizes of Heliax at my station. John KK9A K9ZC wrote: While N connecto

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Correct installation is usually the key.  The line must be supported no more than 12" from the connector and NEVER at any time by the connector, even during installation.   Also, line supports along all vertical and horizontal runs is a must. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/23/2018 4:27 PM, j...@kk9a.co

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
I is not always thermal related. Center pin retraction can also be caused by stress on the coax. I have seen many N male connectors where the shield has slipped in the clamp due to tension on the coax (from the weight of hanging or perhaps other causes). I routinely do 2 things - 1) put a be

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Josh
N are easier to install than UHF (IMHO), easier to tell that they're installed correctly, and it's difficult to find good quality UHF in larger dia for RG214. UHF for Heliax are very expensive while surplus NOS N-connectors are common. That's why I prefer them. I would say UHF offer no advantag

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread john
Pin retraction may depend on your coax. I use a number of N connectors and I have not seen this occur with Belden 8267 or with the various sizes of Heliax at my station. John KK9A K9ZC wrote: While N connectors do have some design and impedance advantages, some of us that have lived in extremel

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Walter Underwood
I’m not trying to convince anyone else to use N-type connectors. I’m just happy they are available. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 1/23/2018 10:29 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> N connectors

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/23/2018 10:29 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: N connectors have better weatherproofing. How does that matter for connections inside a weatherproof enclosure that mounts the arrestors?  They also have the problem of cable migration from the connector. They handle 1500 V instead of 500 V.

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter Underwood Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:29 PM To: Reflector Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor N connectors have better weatherproofing. They

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Walter Underwood
N connectors have better weatherproofing. They handle 1500 V instead of 500 V. But I mostly like them better because they are engineered instead of a historical accident. :-) wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 23, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Jim Brown

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/23/2018 9:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: And Morgan Manufacturing offers them with N connectors! I’m sold. So does Array Solutions. BUT -- for HF, N connections offer no advantages over UHF connectors. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Walter Underwood
And Morgan Manufacturing offers them with N connectors! I’m sold. Thanks for the info. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 23, 2018, at 9:35 AM, Jim N7US wrote: > > Morgan Manufacturing, which, I've heard, was the contract assembly company >

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-23 Thread Jim N7US
Morgan Manufacturing, which, I've heard, was the contract assembly company for ICE, is also selling some of ICE's product line. http://www.morganmfg.us/ 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- In my experience, they fail shorted, so it's pretty obvious. Although the app notes for both the

Re: [Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-22 Thread Jim Brown
In my experience, they fail shorted, so it's pretty obvious.   Although the app notes for both the ICE and Array Solutions products say that they don't always fail shorted. The design is based on this one, which Array Solutions used to sell, but the ICE owner died several years ago. The circui

[Elecraft] Array Solutions Lightning Arrestor

2018-01-22 Thread j...@kk9a.com
Until K9YC's post I was not aware of the Array Solutions lightning arrestor. They appear be a nice product. How do GDT's fail - open or closed? If open, how do you know that they need replacement? John KK9A K9YC wrote: I strongly agree with Bob's advice, EXCEPT that I've gotten really tired of r