Art,

I'm using two K3-to-KPA1500 cables back-to-back, no problems.


Ed W5TM


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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (ANDY DURBIN)
    2. KPA1500 connecting cable to K3 (Art)
    3. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (ANDY DURBIN)
    4. Re: KAT500 maual tuning? (Gordon LaPoint)
    5. Re: KPA1500 connecting cable to K3 (Don Wilhelm)
    6. Re: K2 Build: Requesting Tips and Tricks (Neil Zampella)
    7. Deleting OT (Thomas Schaefer)
    8. Re: Deleting OT (Grant Youngman)
    9. Re: Deleting OT (Thomas Schaefer)
   10.  New release of Win4K3Suite (Tom)
   11. Re: Deleting OT (Don Wilhelm)
   12. Re: Deleting Off topic email (Thomas Schaefer)
   13. Re: K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot (Dan Maase)
   14. ATU Manual settings - KPA1500 (Paul Baldock)
   15. Re: Deleting OT (Walter Underwood)
   16. Re: Deleting OT (Jim Brown)
   17. Re: K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot (Jim Brown)
   18. Re: Deleting OT (John Hiatt)
   19. Re: Deleting OT (Ronald Genovesi)
   20. Re: Deleting OT (Bert Craig)
   21. Re: Deleting OT (EricJ)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:17:17 +0000
From: ANDY DURBIN <a.dur...@msn.com>
To: Michael Blake <k9...@mac.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
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Thanks!


Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility.  This link - 
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe

returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was not found 
on this server."


73,

Andy k3wyc


________________________________
From: Michael Blake <k9...@mac.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
To: ANDY DURBIN
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?

Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.

Michael Blake
k9...@mac.com<mailto:k9...@icloud.com>






On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN 
<a.dur...@msn.com<mailto:a.dur...@msn.com>> wrote:

Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented?   There  
appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was unable to 
download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported there.


Thanks and 73,

Andy, k3wyc
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:24:33 -0400
From: Art <k...@aol.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 connecting cable to K3
Message-ID: <16408fbbf69-c8d-17...@webjas-vae103.srv.aolmail.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Is there any provision for extending the standard Elecraft cable that is only 
about 3 ft to accommodate placement of the 1500 a little further away?


6 or 7 ft. would be ideal in my situation.


73,


Art KZ5D


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:28:39 +0000
From: ANDY DURBIN <a.dur...@msn.com>
To: "d...@elecraft.com" <d...@elecraft.com>, 'Michael Blake'
        <k9...@mac.com>
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
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Thanks!


My search for KAT500 utility took me to 
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm.old  and I did not notice the 
"old"!


73,

Andy k3wyc


________________________________
From: d...@elecraft.com <d...@elecraft.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:21 AM
To: 'ANDY DURBIN'; 'Michael Blake'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?

Try the link to version 1.16.7.25 at the bottom of

http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm


73 de Dick, K6KR


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Behalf Of ANDY DURBIN
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 07:17
To: Michael Blake <k9...@mac.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?

Thanks!


Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility.  This link -
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe

returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was
not found on this server."


73,

Andy k3wyc


________________________________
From: Michael Blake <k9...@mac.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
To: ANDY DURBIN
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?

Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.

Michael Blake
k9...@mac.com<mailto:k9...@icloud.com>






On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN
<a.dur...@msn.com<mailto:a.dur...@msn.com>> wrote:

Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented?
There  appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was
unable to download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported
there.


Thanks and 73,

Andy, k3wyc
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:31:29 -0400
From: Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapo...@gmail.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?
Message-ID: <d8207c54-194f-83ee-1248-2a9a62848...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

That appears to be the wrong link. The proper file is found at:
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm#utility
then click on the *KAT500 Utility (Windows Version 1.16.7.25)
<http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_16_7_25.exe>**July
25, 2016 link.
*This is for the windows version.? The link you are trying is for an
older version.

Gordon - N1MGO
**

On 6/16/2018 10:17 AM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
Thanks!


Maybe Elecraft would fix the link to the KAT500 utility.  This link - 
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe

returns "The requested URL /KAT500/KAT500_Utility_Setup_1_13_5_12.exe was not found 
on this server."


73,

Andy k3wyc


________________________________
From: Michael Blake <k9...@mac.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:12 AM
To: ANDY DURBIN
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 maual tuning?

Yes, the KAT500 Utility provides this function.

Michael Blake
k9...@mac.com<mailto:k9...@icloud.com>






On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:07 AM, ANDY DURBIN 
<a.dur...@msn.com<mailto:a.dur...@msn.com>> wrote:

Can the KAT500 L and C values be manually incremented and decremented?   There  
appear to be no controls on the front panel to allow this and I was unable to 
download the KAT500 utility to see if manual control is supported there.


Thanks and 73,

Andy, k3wyc
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:52:54 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com>
To: Art <k...@aol.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 connecting cable to K3
Message-ID: <e90dfa40-0cb1-ad91-9e18-be5f4d982...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Art,

The KPA1500 to K3 cable is 5 feet long.
Yes, it can be extended, but about 10 feet is the limit.  The limiting
factor is the response time on the single wire communications bus over
the AUXBUS line.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 10:24 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote:
Is there any provision for extending the standard Elecraft cable that is only 
about 3 ft to accommodate placement of the 1500 a little further away?


6 or 7 ft. would be ideal in my situation.


73,


Art KZ5D
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:15:23 -0400
From: Neil Zampella <ne...@techie.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Build: Requesting Tips and Tricks
Message-ID: <fe0b8be3-b390-bfe0-9145-813128000...@techie.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I just finished mine, and its loaded.

I agree with all the previous advice, I picked up another 40 drawer
parts cabinet for the parts, used them both,? and kept them in order
that way.? Each board had its own area of the cabinets,Packing Box bag
in one area,? Control Board in the next, RF board in another, etc.? I
then segregated the parts by type. All the capacitors in one section,
either by the PCB board number, or in the case of the '102' and '103'
capacitors, all in one drawer and grabbed them as needed.??? Marked them
across the front of the drawer with a Sharpie and masking tape.

My resistors came all taped ready to go in order, just find the right
end of the 'string' and work from there.?? Verify the colors, but it
will save you a lot of time searching for the next resistor.

Check and double check all the polarity and pin installations of the
electrolytic capacitors, diodes and transistors.?? As far as ICs, make
sure you have them positioned properly.???? When the manual says to
verify PIN 1, you verify PIN 1.

My only fault was that I installed an IC backwards.?? I looked at that
thing daily and did not see that the large 'dimple' on the top and to
one side of the IC was NOT the side with pin1 and the notch.???? It
wasn't a costly mistake, but I lost about 4 weeks waiting for it to come
back from Elecraft.????? FWIW ... I wasn't the only person who missed
that, so I didn't feel so bad :)

Make sure you have the right solder, and a GOOD temperature controlled
soldering station.? I got a Hakko FX888 from Amazon for $97.00.

Have a VERY GOOD digital meter that can measure capacitance, resistance,
DC voltage, etc.??? Comes in handy when verifying parts you can see
easily, but later on during the alignment steps.

I had a good time putting it together.? I'm ready to build another one
just because it was enjoyable, frustrating at times, but mostly
enjoyable.??? The support from Elecraft is amazing, an email at 8 pm ET,
would get a reply by 10 pm only because I don't think Don sleeps!

Don't hesitate to send emails if you have a question, as the book says,
they will not let you fail.???? Make sure you make the changes in the
main manual as listed in the errata, definitely saves you time, and
errors.????? I'd also download the K2 Manual Appendices from the
website, and print out the board component location diagrams.?? Once you
start placing components, you may not be able to see exactly where that
final part goes, but the diagrams help, and taping them up over your
bench keeps you from having to flip back and forth from your
installation step to the diagram.?? I even printed out the inventory
parts list from that file, made the changes from the errata, and used
that to identify parts if needed to keep me from flipping back and forth.

Finally, the Elecraft website has a lot of good tips under its "Builder
Resources" page.? I will let you know that many of the K2 mods there are
already incorporated in the new kits, so you can read about them, but
you don't have to do them.?? You can verify if you need anything yourself.

Enjoy, there is nothing that gives me greater satisfaction to turn on my
K2/100 and say .. "I built that .. and it works !!!"

Neil, KN3ILZ


On 6/15/2018 7:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Its been 15 years or so [K2 S/N 4398] but my resistors were taped in
the order of insertion.? If yours are, don't remove them before
needed.? I measured each of mine as I was about to insert it, and all
were correct.? I can see the colors, I just can't name them so this
was a huge gift from Elecraft. Benton Harbor just sent a bag, but of
course auto-insertion equipment hadn't been invented then either.
[:-)? I've always wondered how the machine that tapes them works.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/15/2018 4:03 PM, Brian Denley wrote:
Scott:
Get some magnification aid: binocular microscope, magnifying lamp,
etc.? Some of those parts are pretty small and solder joints need to
be inspected.? Good lighting is a must as well as an anti static mat.

Brian
KB1VBF
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 15, 2018, at 2:14 PM, hawley, charles j jr
<c-haw...@illinois.edu> wrote:

I took about 10 years to build it. I started, then moved the ham
shack to the new addition. I recorded every mod, change and
alternate part over the 10 years and essentially wrote a new updated
assembly manual. Bought all the add on options. Bought new firm ware
that I never got to use and bought new again at the finish. Turned
it on and guess what, no issues. Somehow I like the way it sounds,
maybe better than the K3...

Chuck
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack

On Jun 15, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Martin Sole <hs0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I built 7723 last year and it was an outstanding way to while away
a good few days in the desert.? Here's a couple of things that
might help you along:

It's not one kit it's 3. Think of it like that and keep everything
separate. Even though you will do a minimal build on the RF board
for test purposes it's still 3 kits.

It's not a one day build. Even if you spend every waking hour on it
(you wont!) it still takes a fair few days/weeks/months to get
through.

The book is right! Even when it's just plain wrong, it's right. Go
back read it again, ask on here. But that build book must have been
worked over almost 8000 times, it's right.

I couldn't find any suitable trays to organise components but I
bought a set of small(ish) plastic pots with lids. Big enough to
get my fingers in. I had 12 I think which was more than enough,
about 4 inches diameter and a couple of inches deep. Keeping the
lids on and marked with the contents helped keep from them
scattering from a careless movement or other accident.

Keep everything as Elecraft intended. If it came in a separate
little brown envelope, inventory it then put it back in the
envelope. Keep the resistors on their tapes, they are in fitting
order.

Get a good quality pair of flush cutters and learn how to use them.
It's worthwhile perfecting the technique of close cutting the leads
before soldering, makes a nice board to handle afterwards and is
very very very necessary in the area of the main vfo encoder.

Ask questions here, it's a fantastic resource.

Last, but by no means least, enjoy! As the ads say, it's the most
fun you have with your clothes on. Though that might depend on how
you do your kit building :)

73
Martin, HS0ZED



On 15/06/2018 21:45, Scott wrote:
I'll be starting a K2 build in the near future after the inventory
is complete.? A partial inventory is complete at this point.? I'm
looking for tips and tricks for a successful build.? Right now my
biggest problem as I see it, is how to organize all the caps and
resistors to make the build go smooth and relatively quick.? At
any rate, all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Scott
AD5HS
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:20:21 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <54d82dbe-5414-4ade-a165-dbbe00643...@xmission.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.

  I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully 
make it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content 
otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a 
rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete 
posts by people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.

Regards,

Tom NY4I


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:28:37 -0400
From: Grant Youngman <ghyoung...@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <6d1d5c8d-71e6-4645-b100-ee8493caa...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

It isn?t just this list, of course.  It?s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or 
Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and ?   And every digest.

I?ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for 
you.  And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early 
on.  :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com> wrote:

While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.

I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make 
it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. 
I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to 
automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by 
people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.

Regards,

Tom NY4I


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:32:09 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com>
To: Grant Youngman <ghyoung...@gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <3945bf06-e724-46f3-83bf-b2508a61c...@xmission.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

Thanks.

To avoid creating too many posts (and have this turn into a me-too off topic 
post), if people respond to me directly IF THEY KNOW HOW to FILTER a DIGEST, I 
will summarize and send it back to the list.

Regards,

Tom NY4I

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Grant Youngman <ghyoung...@gmail.com> wrote:

It isn?t just this list, of course.  It?s every list, every BBS, every Yahoo or 
Google or IO group, twitter, and FB, and Reddit, and ?   And every digest.

I?ve never come across any list that will automatically do the filtering for 
you.  And sometimes the OT threads can be quite interesting .. at least early 
on.  :-)

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com 
<mailto:t...@xmission.com>> wrote:

While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net <http://qth.net/> list 
software automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.

I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make 
it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. 
I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to 
automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by 
people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.

Regards,

Tom NY4I


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:42:01 -0400
From: "Tom" <tom...@videotron.ca>
To: "Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft]  New release of Win4K3Suite
Message-ID: <DB1E12C196134282A506A0D8F65C9901@DESKTOPAV61F2H>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello, There is a new release of Win4K3Suite which now provides display and 
control of the KPA1500. Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the 
Elecraft K3, K3S, KX3 and KX2 supporting the KPA500, and KPA1500 as well as 
various Panadapters.  It includes built in Virtual radios allowing the sharing 
of the radio with up to 6 additional programs or hardware devices.

You can see it in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Win4K3Suite
and download a 30 day free trial at va2fsq.com

Robust and contest proven, Win4K3Suite has been chosen as the software 
integration platform for the upcoming DXpediation to Baker Island in 2018.
Check out the user reviews! https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11214

73 Tom
va2fsq.com

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:42:11 -0400
From: Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com>
To: Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <1af65e1f-7ebb-22a5-c441-7154db313...@embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you
are downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your
smartphone or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the
digest is a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place
anything with "OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?

I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.

   I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully 
make it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content 
otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a 
rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete 
posts by people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.


------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:59:29 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <t...@xmission.com>
To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting Off topic email
Message-ID: <691716ab-ca9c-419b-ab78-d9dad4ce1...@xmission.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

Thanks for the useful information Don. I changed over to non-digest.

I use a Mac so I already have all radio list email go into a Smart Folder. I 
created a rule to automatically delete any email that has OT in the subject 
(ironically, this one). Hopefully we can ask people to give some serious 
thought to what they write and if they must post something off-topic, to 
include OT in the subject. Again, just a polite request?I?m not telling people 
what to post.

I believe that takes care of this one so thank you all for your consideration 
and the bandwidth.

<SNARK>We can now go back to discussing how FT8 cannot be used at Field Day (with my 
K3 to make it tangentially on topic) or how my P3 makes a better pan adapter than back in 
the day when I used an Kenwood SM-220 (and the resulting 30 post thread about how good the 
Kenwood TS-820 line was).  </SNARK>

Regards,

Tom NY4I

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you are 
downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone 
or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is 
a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with 
"OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.
Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
  I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully 
make it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content 
otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a 
rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete 
posts by people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.


------------------------------

Message: 13
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:16:34 -0400
From: Dan Maase <dfma...@aol.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: dfma...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot
Message-ID: <16409624b1f-c8a-18...@webjas-vab243.srv.aolmail.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot behavior has been passed up the Elecraft 
Tech/Engineering chain.? I expect it may take them some time to get to it, so 
in the meantime it would be useful for those interested to conduct the test 
below to determine if the behavior is unique to my K3 or more wide spread.?
?
My primary concern is operating with the K3 driving an amplifier (KPA 500 in my 
case).? It is often the case that the overshoot is so high that the KPA faults 
on the first key press when power is set for 500 watts and in SSB +CW mode.
__________________________________________________________________________________
?
Following is a repeatable test that exhibits the overshoot and power adjust 
instability problem we have been discussing.
?
Setup:
1,? Output terminated in dummy load (ANT 1)
2.? Config: CW WGHT -- [1]? SSB +CW
3.? S Meter Peak -- ON
4.? Meter Mode -- SWR/RF (to observe output power)
5.? Set Power 50 watts (initial setting)
6.? Select any band
?
Operation:
1.? Select CW mode; VOX on
?
Press key and hold.
? ? Note that power ramps up to the set 50 watt value
? ? Adjust power up or down; note that the power change is smooth with no jumps 
or overshoots
? ? Press key on/off/on .... -- power always returns to set value
? ? Release key and set power to 50 watts
?
2.? Change to SSB mode (upper or lower)
?
? ??Press key and hold while observing watt meter -- note that power overshoots 
the 50 watt level and then? ? ??? ??? ?drops to 50?watts.
? ? Adjust power up.? Note that the power jumps high then returns to set value.?

? ? Adjust power down.? Note that the power jumps high, than returns to set 
value.
? ? (note that whether the power is adjusted higher or lower, the output power 
jumps higher, then ? ??? ??? ??? ?reduces to the?set value).
? ? Also note that the power supply current jumps (overshoots high) coincident 
with each power adjustment.
? ? Release key, then press again and hold. Note that the power does not 
overshoot the set value.? Release and ? ??hold any number of times and power 
continues to be stable at set value.
?
Changing now to CW mode with VOX and power is stable.
Changing back to SSB +CW and power is unstable and with overshoot with first 
key press.
?
This phenomenon occurs in both HP and LP modes.
This phenomenon is apparent when the K3 is initially turned on from a cold 
start, but gets progressively more pronounced after about 10 minutes of on time 
in quiescent state (no RF out).? PA Temp at this time is 25C.? As requested, 
fan is set to level 1.
?
Discussion:
It is my understanding from old Reflector mail posts that the SSB +CW mode is 
implemented such that when key is pressed, the K3 changes dynamically from SSB 
to CW mode.? It appears that the CW ALC function is not in play until some time 
delay after key press, at which time the CW output settles at the set power 
level.? This time delay would appear to be at the root of the problem.? When 
the power is adjusted, it would appear the ALC loop opens up and then 
re-engages when adjustment stops.

?
The fact that the phenomenon changes in magnitude as the K3 warms up, may 
simply be a function of linear stages within the ALC loop changing gain with 
temperature.
?
The above test sequence is easy to apply and as such would be very curious to 
see if the phenomenon occurs on any of the Elecraft bench test K3's.
______________________________________________________________________________________
?
Thanks and 73,
Dan AC6DM

------------------------------

Message: 14
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:07:36 -0700
From: Paul Baldock <p...@paulbaldock.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ATU Manual settings - KPA1500
Message-ID: <5b2543db.1c69fb81.c27fc.7...@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

It seems I can get a much better SWR by manually changing the L/C
settings. However, I have not figured out how to store those manually
entered settings; it always returns to the auto setting (as
demonstrated by changing bands and then changing back ).

Anybody know how to do this?

- Paul  KW7Y



------------------------------

Message: 15
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:17:54 -0700
From: Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <2def9cbd-4606-4351-afd5-d45871994...@wunderwood.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow 
posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss 
list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 
years ago.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you are 
downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone 
or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is 
a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with 
"OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.
Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
  I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully 
make it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content 
otherwise. I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a 
rule to automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete 
posts by people that  post things unrelated to Elecraft.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
______________________________________________________________
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:27:53 -0700
From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID:
        <abdd0fec-13ac-dfc6-379b-044eb0fe3...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 6/16/2018 8:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete only the OT 
posts when using the digest.
I subscribe to almost two dozen email reflectors. I used digest mode
once many years ago when I went away on vacation, and that was the
reason I stopped.? A far better solution is good email software that can
be set up to sort incoming email into mailboxes that you can then
quickly scroll through. I use Thunderbird.

Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I know there are utilities to do this. Others will tell you about them.

73, Jim K9YC



------------------------------

Message: 17
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:32:36 -0700
From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB + CW Power Overshoot
Message-ID:
        <f5a57b52-e999-1392-27af-8856d8370...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 6/16/2018 9:16 AM, Dan Maase via Elecraft wrote:
Changing back to SSB +CW
What is SSB +CW?

73, Jim K9YC



------------------------------

Message: 18
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 17:33:45 +0000
From: John Hiatt <hid...@hotmail.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID:
        
<cy4pr11mb13662e66361873c60ec648add9...@cy4pr11mb1366.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
        
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There is a separate email list for Elecraft Sales. It is how the monthly 
newsletters have been distributed. I can't seem to find information on the web 
site about how to subscribe to it though, and I don't remember how I got signed 
up.

John, KC7DRI

________________________________
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf 
of Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:17 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow 
posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss 
list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 
years ago.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)



------------------------------

Message: 19
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:15:17 -0700
From: Ronald Genovesi <n3...@coastside.net>
To: Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <eb233855-d4a8-415d-a49e-2cd498781...@coastside.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

    Really Guys?  Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push?  
This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"

      Ron Genovesi
      n3...@coastside.net





On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> wrote:

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow 
posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss 
list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 
years ago.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)

On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com 
<mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you are 
downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone 
or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is 
a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with 
"OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.
Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make 
it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. 
I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to 
automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by 
people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:24:01 -0400
From: Bert Craig <wa...@arrl.net>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <d33a3af8-0a85-409b-a24c-fc715f0419eb.maildroid@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine 
coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to 
go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Genovesi <n3...@coastside.net>
To: Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT

    Really Guys?  Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push?  
This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"

      Ron Genovesi
      n3...@coastside.net





On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> wrote:

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow 
posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss 
list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 
years ago.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)

On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com 
<mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you are 
downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone 
or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is 
a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with 
"OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.
Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make 
it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. 
I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to 
automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by 
people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:40:43 -0700
From: EricJ <eric.c...@gmail.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT
Message-ID: <d6195f4e-a265-054f-8209-db52913b3...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Since I only own a K1 and a couple of K2s, the vast majority of posts on
this list are OT to me. A few filters in Thunderbird allow me to see the
legacy stuff and the OT stuff keeps the Elecraft community together when
there are no Elecraft specific posts. That helps ensure the Elecraft
brain trust is there when "on topic" answers are needed.

Eric KE6US


On 6/16/2018 11:24 AM, Bert Craig wrote:
Amen! Censorship STINKS! (No matter how you attempt to sugar-coat it.) Imagine 
coming across a QSO in PROGRESS that doesn't interest you and asking the ops to 
go QRT rather than QSYing? Smh...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Genovesi <n3...@coastside.net>
To: Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:15
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Deleting OT

     Really Guys?  Is the delete key on your keyboard that hard to find and push?  
This whole thread should have been labeled ?OT"

       Ron Genovesi
       n3...@coastside.net





On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> wrote:

One approach is to have two lists. An elecraft-announce list would only allow 
posts from Elecraft. It might allow some moderated posts. An elecraft-discuss 
list would be like the current list.

This was a common convention when I first started following email lists 35 
years ago.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/> (my blog)

On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com 
<mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

Tom,

As far as I know, there is no way to do that for digests.  But if you are 
downloading the digest to your computer and not wanting it on your smartphone 
or other web based application, then read on.

If you have an email client on your computer, IMHO subscribing to the digest is 
a cumbersome way to view the Elecraft email list.
Subscribe to individual emails.
Create a folder in your email client for the Elecraft emails.
Set a filter to place all incoming emails with [Elecraft] into that folder.
Presto -- you have your own digest on your computer.

If you do not want to see the OT posts, simply create a filter to place anything with 
"OT" into into your trash.

Mozilla Thunderbird works nicely and is free - multiplatform as well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/16/2018 11:20 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
While inevitably I will hear from people that I should just click hit the 
DELETE key, I get the digest form of this email list. One cannot really delete 
only the OT posts when using the digest.
Does anyone know if there is a way to have the qth.net list software 
automatically remove posts that start with OT in the subject?
I subscribe to this list to get information about the Elecraft line of 
equipment (KPA1500 is the latest). I am not sure if it is boredom or lack of 
other outlets that folks believe they can post things that have absolutely 
nothing to do with Elecraft. For the record, as I have been in the Elecraft dog 
house before for mentioning this, I am not suggesting what people should post.
I am asking a legitimate question if anyone knows a way I could mercifully make 
it stop?short of unsubscribing and losing the actual useful content otherwise. 
I suspect I could switch to individual emails and simply setup a rule to 
automatically delete anything that starts with OT. Then just delete posts by 
people that post things unrelated to Elecraft.
Thanks in advance if anyone knows a way to do that for digests.
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