Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-18 Thread Brian Alsop
Ed et al, As I said in my posting the receive filter info came from a quote attributed to Chen in the QST article. I pointed out that the link supplied by QST was not for receive. So we either have to accept the quote of Chen on the receive side (additional data exists that Chen has?) or

Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-18 Thread Jack Smith
Back in ye olde days of RTTY when we used mechanical printers, the thinking was that the minimum bandwidth required was that sufficient to pass the 3rd keying sideband without too much attenuation or time shift. (This was way before measuring group delay was something that could be done other

Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
So we either have to accept the quote of Chen on the receive side (additional data exists that Chen has?) or the QST author got it wrong. Chen has written extensively on RTTY filtering both on his web site as well as in his postings on the RTTY list. In addition, Chen has provided links to

[Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Brian Alsop
This comes from June 2013 QST page 59. According to W7AY: The ideal RTTY filter is 280 Hz wide. Narrowing it further by 60 Hz doubles the error rate. The article references: http://www.w7ay.net/site/Technical/RTTY%20Transmit%20Filters/index.html Which doesn't come out and say the above!

Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Anyhow this may confirm what has been said on this reflector. The 350 Hz (AKA 250 Hz) filter is probably the narrowest practical choice for RTTY. This is a point that can not be emphasized too often. The 250 Hz filter has a very rounded top that is being pushed hard to reach Chen's 270 Hz

Re: [Elecraft] Ideal RTTY filter.

2013-05-17 Thread Ed Muns
Brian K3KO wrote: This comes from June 2013 QST page 59. First of all, Chen's article is about transmit filtering which is not directly translatable to optimal receive filtering. Second, the cascade effect of the K3 crystal filter and DSP filter must be considered in determining the net