[Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Bob McGraw
From: Wes To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO Message-ID:<2bd9c23b-1ee9-0976-f88e-c4dd25080...@triconet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed It is not in the manual, but has appeared here many times, without logical explana

[Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Bob McGraw
Line: Signal loss in a QSO Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have a K3, P3, KAT500 and KPA500. I was listening in the middle of a QSO and lost signal. I tested my antenna with a back up transceiver and the antenna and coax are good. The P3 still shows signals but only

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Geert Jan de Groot
On 16/01/2022 18:40, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: It is not in the manual, but has appeared here many times, without logical explanation. It actually is in the manual, but not very clearly: K3S rev A1 manual page 67 (TXGN parameter), K3 rev D10 manual page 62 (TXGN parameter).

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Rick Tavan
At risk of error paraphrasing prior discussions, let me try to explain: Elecraft implemented the implicit gain calibration at 5 and 50W believing that it was a subtle and harmless way of triggering gain cal. Users could do it intentionally (albeit tediously) and if it happened accidentally it

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread David Gilbert
That begs the questions of why it ISN'T in the manual or tech note addendum, and why it hasn't been addressed by Elecraft. Worst case, it would make more sense to have the gain calibration done at some odd power level like 5.3 watts and 53 watts instead of power levels that users would

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Richard Ferch
You may or may not consider this logical, but: The description of the transmitter gain calibration procedure in the manual does not call up any special calibration menu. It just says transmit a carrier at exactly 5.0 watts or exactly 50 watts. Apparently the firmware uses these power level

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
Jim, Thank you for the reference to the post confirming the 5/50 watt issue! 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/16/22 06:27, Jim McCook wrote: FYI once again.  You

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Jim McCook
FYI once again.  You can confirm this with Elecraft support.  Jim https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg252041.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Mike Markowski
I will dangerously rely on memory.  I recall a discussion, no doubt one of many similar, simply describing the amp as most efficient at full power, not that any output power level should be avoided.  After all, every amp is designed around some quiescent current. 73, Mike ab3ap On 1/16/22

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Wes
It is not in the manual, but has appeared here many times, without logical explanation. Wes  N7WS On 1/16/2022 6:52 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: I have not heard this either. Is this in the manual? 5 watts would be a tough output to avoid if you enjoy QRP. John KK9A KE8G wrote: Hmm, I've never

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
See: https://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2022-January/288276.html for a reference to the original post, which I can not locate... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread john
I have not heard this either. Is this in the manual? 5 watts would be a tough output to avoid if you enjoy QRP. John KK9A KE8G wrote: Hmm, I've never heard that 5 or 50 watts of power shouldn't be run. 73 de KE8G - Jim __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
Hopefully someone remembers the thread title, I don't. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/16/22 04:52, KE8G wrote: Hmm, I’ve never heard that 5 or 50 watts of power

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-16 Thread KE8G
Hmm, I’ve never heard that 5 or 50 watts of power shouldn’t be run. 73 de KE8G - Jim On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 18:54 Dave (NK7Z) wrote: > If I remember correctly, 5 watts is a power level to avoid... As is 50 > Watts. I believe it messes with the TX calibration. > > 73, and thanks, > Dave

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
If I remember correctly, 5 watts is a power level to avoid... As is 50 Watts. I believe it messes with the TX calibration. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/15/22

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread KE8G
Back the power off below the 12 watts, and see if you get anything. Same thing had happened to me today, so running K3s at 5 watts, and the Kpa500 is putting out 80-90wstts 73 de KE8G - Jim On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 13:04 Ronnie Hull wrote: > I had the exact same problem! It’s been Elecraft for

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread Ronnie Hull
I had the exact same problem! It’s been Elecraft for a few months now. Hopefully I will get it back before summer W5SUM Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Linda M wrote: > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread Dave
Hi, If it were me, I would bypass everything and feed the antenna directly to the K3. If things work after that step, it is not the K3. Again, if it were me, I would begin adding things back, one at a time, until the failure returns. At that point, I would conclude that the last device

[Elecraft] K Line: Signal loss in a QSO

2022-01-15 Thread rikoski
I have a K3, P3, KAT500 and KPA500. I was listening in the middle of a QSO and lost signal. I tested my antenna with a back up transceiver and the antenna and coax are good. The P3 still shows signals but only hiss comes out of the K3’s speaker. Keying the k3 by pressing the attached foot