Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Bill W4ZV
Jim Brown-10 wrote The 7600 is also an RF trash generator -- clicks and phase noise abound. Not as bad as many others...Flex Radios the worst by far: Model QST Rx @20 kHz Tx @20 kHz Diff Tx Wide (-dBc) (-dBc) (dB) (-dBc) K3 Jan 09 112 (104) 119 -7 128@100kHz, 120@360kHz TS-599AT Aug 11 115

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/26/2013 4:36 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: The 7600 is also an RF trash generator -- clicks and phase noise abound. Not as bad as many others...Flex Radios the worst by far: That does not consider clicks -- most if not all Icom radios have a leading spike, and the keying rise time on the 7600

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/26/2013 10:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: It says that the 7600 is 11dB worse than the K3 -- that's 12X the power of the trash within 20 kHz for phase noise alone! Correction -- the 7600 is 17 dB worse than the K3, 50X the power of the trash from phase noise. 73, Jim K9YC

[Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Douglas Zwiebel
Hope this prints OK. While doodling around today, I thought to take a look at the eHam.net product reviews. Somewhat difficult to make a lot of sense from it, so I thought I'd import it into Excel. I've limited the list below to those rigs with 100 or more reviews. The sort is by average

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/25/2013 1:06 PM, Douglas Zwiebel wrote: I've limited the list below to those rigs with 100 or more reviews. The sort is by average rating, then # of reviews. I wouldn't put too much credence in a sort like this -- ratings like this are highly subjective, based on factors like

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Douglas Zwiebel
Jim, K9YC sed: [snip] I wouldn't put too much credence in a sort like this -- ratings like this are highly subjective [end snip] Which is exactly why I limited the list to 100 or more reviews. I figure that folks who buy, or might buy, a K3 or K2 (or any other rig), are probably as subjective

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread EricJ
Interesting list, but I just bought a DX-40 on ebay and it's not on it. Did I screw up? Eric KE6US On 12/25/2013 1:06 PM, Douglas Zwiebel wrote: Hope this prints OK. While doodling around today, I thought to take a look at the eHam.net product reviews. Somewhat difficult to make a lot of

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Dick Dickinson
With 2 more reviews, the venerable Icom IC-751A would top the list at 5.0. 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Good point Eric. You demonstate how much personal interests affect how a rig might be rated. Compared to what a DX-40 has to offer the antique enthusiast, all of the rigs on Doug's list don't even make the list, Hi! 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Interesting list, but I just bought

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
Interesting stats, Doug. I expected the KX3 to be right up there near the top, too, but then I realized it has only 99 reviews. Just missed The Cutoff :) eHam is a highly approximate metric for radio quality. But I do read every review, since they're are often posted by customers who aren't

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Fred C. Jensen
From your perspective Wayne, i'd read them all too. From my perspective as just a ham, I've pretty much given up on eHam reviews. Like me trying to learn how to pilot a helicopter, they are all over the sky. Plus, I don't know who they are, what they expected, whether or not that was

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K2: cumulative HF xcvr review from eHam

2013-12-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/25/2013 9:22 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Lots of valuable observations, ideas for improvement, etc. That's why you guys have always been in front of the pack! 73, Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: