Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-19 Thread Roger
al Message- From: W2xj [mailto:w...@w2xj.net] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: Roger Cc: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion With EER a class C or D amplifier can deliver an IMD of at least -80 DB but with pre-distortion it cou

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-19 Thread W2xj
BW > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 2:09 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion > >> On 5/1

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-19 Thread Roger
..@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 2:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion On 5/18/2019 4:01 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > Those > of us with engineering backgrounds knew that

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/18/2019 4:01 PM, Phil Kane wrote: Those of us with engineering backgrounds knew that what I was referring to as "pre-distortion" was the pre-emphasis / de-emphasis curves commonly used in FM broadcast audio chains. All of which emphasizes the need for using the right words to describe

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/18/2019 9:42 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > Tongue and cheek, .from what I hear on the bands, pre-distortion > starts with mostly that which comes out of the operators mouth.  > Electronics won't improve this artifact. For sure! Same with current music. No extra charge for the

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread ab2tc
Hi Roger, You wrote "With the radios receiverwise reaching the physical limits it now is time to pull up the transmitter side to the state of the art as well. Regarding transmit IMD we are still in the 70s or 80s and sometimes even worse than that therefore no progress has been made the last

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread Grant Youngman
There is an input on the real panel for a “sample” from an RF amp. No indication that I’ve seen yet on the purpose of this input. I suspect it may be a while before all is revealed .. :-) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On May 18, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Tongue and

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Tongue and cheek, .from what I hear on the bands, pre-distortion starts with mostly that which comes out of the operators mouth.  Electronics won't improve this artifact. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 5/18/2019 11:35 AM, Roger wrote: As there is a lot of buzz going around with the announced K4

[Elecraft] K4 and Predistortion

2019-05-18 Thread Roger
As there is a lot of buzz going around with the announced K4 and I have seen 1 or 2 messages on this reflector that referred to "Predistortion" I wonder if there is any further detail on that. I probably fall out of the regular scheme as I couldn´t care less about the ability for remote control