Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/25/2022 4:15 AM, Andy Durbin wrote: My test data showed no significant advantage in temperature control over just letting KPA 500 decide when to run the fan. Neighbor K6XX, a serious contester and the Elecraft engineer responsible for putting both of their amps into production, advised

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-25 Thread Andy Durbin
"Is there data showing more dissipated heat with lower output in solid state  amplifiers? " I have test data for my KPA500 and it's very obvious that this amplifier has higher PA heat dissipation at half power than at full power. Not just less efficient as a percentage of power output but the

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-25 Thread Andy Durbin
Sorry - too early in the morning - "KPA500" not "KPA 500". Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-25 Thread Andy Durbin
"Now, my question for everyone reading - when is it that you feel the need to set the fan speed above 0?" I coded my station controller to provide an option to start KPA 500 fan at start of TX and have it run for a fixed time after TX stops. My test data showed no significant advantage in

[Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread Bob McGraw
Bob, K4TAX On 4/24/2022 6:48 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 15 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:40:30 -0500 From: Jack Brindle To: email Cc:"elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish Message-ID: Content-Type: t

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread EMAIL
Jack, OK, you win. I went back to fan speed (0) NOR and with FT8 at 400+ watts, the KPA500 is only "doing" 56C max AND fan speed (2) is maxing also at 56C.  So, yes I will run the fan at (0) NOR. Also, "rest" for NOR is 44C. 73, steve WB3LGC On 24-Apr-22 05:21 PM, email wrote: Jack,

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread john
Is there data showing more dissipated heat with lower output in solid state amplifiers? I have seen similar posts on the SPE Expert list. The following KPA1500 post shows much lower efficiency with lower power but not more lost wattage: I am not an RF amp guru, I am just trying to understand

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread email
Jack, Now that you ask. I have been using the fan at (1) when I run FT8 to "get a head start" when I do TX.  I don't NEED to.  I like to see lower TEMP and it does.  I have been known to run 400W on FT8, too (FT8 is low signal mode not QRP) and I have been trying to get a Dallas station DE

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
If there was no recent “HI TEMP” fault in the log, then it was not the KPA500 that caused the display on the K4. In that case, ask the K4 folks what may have happened. I have never seen a HI TEMP fault with my KPA500s in normal operation, although I am sure others have. I have seen it when

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread email
On 4/24/22 15:06, Jack Brindle wrote: Steve; Use the KPA Utility to see the KPA faults. Access is under the Configuration tab, then click on “Display Fault Table”. You can also save it to a file for view in a text editor, or if we ask for it, send it to tech support for analysis. Thanks, I

Re: [Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Steve; Use the KPA Utility to see the KPA faults. Access is under the Configuration tab, then click on “Display Fault Table”. You can also save it to a file for view in a text editor, or if we ask for it, send it to tech support for analysis. The FAN CTL sets the minimum fan speed. It works

[Elecraft] K4D - KPA500 Fault Question + wish

2022-04-24 Thread EMAIL
Yesterday I got a fault message on the K4 screen. It disappeared before I could see it fully, but I did get "tighten heatsink screws".  The fan was working as its speed was speeding up and the KPA500 temp saw about 60+C (it may have been higher).  I was running 100 watts PSK31.  The KPA500 did