Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-15 Thread Eric Norris
I find the K3's NB function fantastic. NR works very well, but it takes a while to tweak it in. Bill's idea below sounds like a great idea! 73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 9:42 AM Bill Frantz The NR change I would like is "just" a UI change. If I could > temporarily set up two knobs to ch

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, Certainly not - any firmware changes to the K3S are applicable to the K3 as well. But the K3 is now 10 years old, and there is now not much new engineering effort going on to make improvements. If problems develop, they will certainly be addresses - perhaps even with top priority depe

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread bill
On 1/14/19 at 5:19 AM, jstengrev...@comcast.net (John Stengrevics) wrote: Given the increased noise levels most hams face, I emailed Wayne to ask if improved noise reduction & noise blanking were on their project list. He said no.  So, any improvements are apparently a long way off.

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread Drew AF2Z
Yes, perhaps the RIT knob could be employed to step the NR selection between F1, F2, F3, etc. The RIT control is not used for anything while the NR display is engaged. 73, Drew AF2Z On 01/14/19 12:42, Bill Frantz wrote: The NR change I would like is "just" a UI change. If I could temporarily

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread Bill Frantz
The NR change I would like is "just" a UI change. If I could temporarily set up two knobs to change the two parameters it would be a lot easier to play with the settings and find the best combo. Having one knob means having to remember how well a setting several twists away works; much harder.

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread John Stengrevics
Given the increased noise levels most hams face, I emailed Wayne to ask if improved noise reduction & noise blanking were on their project list. He said no. So, any improvements are apparently a long way off. John WA1EAZ > On Jan 14, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > > Lyle is retired

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread Wes Stewart
Lyle is retired here in Tucson. Wes  N7WS On 1/14/2019 3:00 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: David Gilbert wrote Yes, I agree that the computation needs to be done in the frequency domain with an FFT.  I have no clue whether or not the K3 and K3s have enough computational power to do so, but Lyle (Elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-14 Thread Bill W4ZV
David Gilbert wrote > Yes, I agree that the computation needs to be done in the frequency > domain with an FFT.  I have no clue whether or not the K3 and K3s have > enough computational power to do so, but Lyle (Elecraft's DSP guru) > briefly discussed this idea with me when I suggested it sever

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-13 Thread Bill Frantz
Given the way processors improve in speed with time (Moore's law), the idea of a new DSP could mean just that. The big issues I see are RFI, power consumption, and heat. If we go in the direction of adding AI to the mix, then we will need more storage as well as more processor. (Your phone rel

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-13 Thread David Gilbert
Yes, I agree that the computation needs to be done in the frequency domain with an FFT.  I have no clue whether or not the K3 and K3s have enough computational power to do so, but Lyle (Elecraft's DSP guru) briefly discussed this idea with me when I suggested it several years ago and he seeme

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-13 Thread David Woolley
Assuming that there is enough processing power available, and the architecture physically allows the mixing, manually steering either the peak or the null should be achievable. There is a slight subtlety in that one is trying to achieve a constant time delay at RF, not a constant phase change,

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/12/2019 2:06 PM, David Gilbert wrote: This would allow a user to put up two vertical sense antennas to determine the azimuth of an incoming signal (albeit with a potential mirror image uncertainty).  Or put up two horizontal sense antennas to display the arrival angle of an incoming signal

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-13 Thread Turkish Contest Team TC3N
I am not an engineer but i agree with David. It is like DSA (digital subtraction angiography) tecnology. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_subtraction_angiography) I know that this technology is much useful for studing on medical images, So i understand that David has adviced such a same tech

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-12 Thread David Gilbert
Don, No, it isn't the same at all and I don't understand why you think it is.  Your brain may be able to discern differences in phase and try to focus in on one signal versus others, but it isn't going to do any of these things: 1.  Actually amplify a desired signal (probably 2 to 3 db) at

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, When they are driven from the same synthesizer, they are indeed "phase locked". 73, Don W3FPR On 1/12/2019 5:59 PM, Nr4c wrote: I’m not an engineer but from the discussions here in the past, in diversity mode, the VFOs are not “phase locked” but actually driven by the same synthesize

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-12 Thread Nr4c
I’m not an engineer but from the discussions here in the past, in diversity mode, the VFOs are not “phase locked” but actually driven by the same synthesizer, so they both get the very same frequency info. Thus output the same frequency. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jan 12, 2019,

Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Using Diversity Receive, the human brain does that automatically (but not with the numbers). You can sort out both signals and automatically pick the best one or a blend of the two. This is an unconscious process. The name of the game is communications, not looking at numbers represe

[Elecraft] New DSP Idea

2019-01-12 Thread David Gilbert
I know Wayne requested direct replies to his query and I've already done that, but I have a serious suggestion and I'm curious if others here would be interested.  Here it is: === The two receivers in a K3 or K3s can be phase locked for diversity reception, and the new synths preserve that p