[Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-15 Thread eric manning
If you use a center-fed vertical [like the Sigma 5 I have] you don't need radials at all. It's just a half-wave dipole stood up on end. Much better than the old-fashioned quarter-wave vertical with all its problems of ground losses. Needs to be center loaded for 40 but 33 feet is a full half-wav

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-15 Thread Hardy Landskov
PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement > > As several others have mentioned, I think you would be better served by a > multiband vertical such as a Butterrnut, Hustler, HyGain, etc. As for the > radials, elevated radials are clearly superior

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-15 Thread Don - K2PMC
As several others have mentioned, I think you would be better served by a multiband vertical such as a Butterrnut, Hustler, HyGain, etc. As for the radials, elevated radials are clearly superior to ground radials, as demonstrated in the March QST. I also speak from personal experience as I have

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-15 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:17:50 -0800 (PST), djmd wrote: See comments in line... >I live in a very standard subdivision-type lot, about 180'x70' with a >single-story 55'x25' house right in the middle. The one option that I have >to rule out is putting the antenna smack-dab in the center of the bac

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-15 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Buy, beg, borrow or ste ummm locate a copy of Les Moxon's, G6XN (SK), book "HF Antennas for All Locations". He provides some options that are worth considering. The book covers a lot of possibilities for "small gardens", typical in the UK and US. Don't buy into the 43' vertical hype. It's a g

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread DONALD-2
Look into the GAP Titan DX I am using one now and very happy with it. Will mount on your house nicely Donald -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Elecraft-Question-about-vertical-and-radial-placement-tp4572504p4572542.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
Contrary to expectations, your radials need not go anywhere near the ground. If your antenna is on the roof then your radials should start at the feed point and remain horizontal, and stay on the roof. They don't need to go down to the ground and so they won't be visible (at least not compared to

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
You are likely to get a lot of ideas and comments, but a bit of study will substantiate what I am about to say on the subject - it is all just practical physics, no real 'magic' involved. (OK -- some theory from EE Field Mechanics theory is involved too). If you mount the 43 ft. vertical on th

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread djmd
Ugh, I can't win tonight! :) The suggestion was for a CP6A"R" which is still available as far as I can tell. Looking into it right now... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Elecraft-Question-about-vertical-and-radial-placement-tp4572504p4572514.html Se

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread djmd
n if the bandwidth on 40m isn't great, that's ok, as I failed to mention that I'm 90% CW, 9% PSK, and 1% SSB. Low power also - 15w or so. I should probably also check out the other available antennas that don't "require" radials. -- View this message in context: h

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/14/2010 4:17 PM, djmd wrote: > Currently without any HF antenna and after seeing my friend's > success with his homebuilt vertical, I'm starting to consider a > self-supported 43' allbander, from DX-Engineering or the like. > Not really looking to discuss general performance vs. other > anten

Re: [Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread Mike WA8BXN
With a wire running down to the radials, you would have something more like an off center fed vertical dipole. The distance to ground would be near a quarter wave for some bands. Heavy wire would not change that. Have you considered going through the roof with a wire to a counterpoise in the attic?

[Elecraft] Question about vertical and radial placement

2010-02-14 Thread djmd
Hello, Currently without any HF antenna and after seeing my friend's success with his homebuilt vertical, I'm starting to consider a self-supported 43' allbander, from DX-Engineering or the like. Not really looking to discuss general performance vs. other antennas, but I am curious about my optio