Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-21 Thread Jim Brown
Dave, Yes. In other words, just as we would wind in sequence around a toroid. It limits the number of useful turns that can be wound to one side of the clamp. Once I realized that, I no longer recommend the clamp-on for TX chokes, only for RFI suppression. 73, Jim K9YC On 12/21/2021 6:47

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-21 Thread Dave Fugleberg
Jim, When you said “turns must go through the core in sequence”, does that mean that each turn must rest next to the last one, rather than overlapping one or more previous turns? I suspect that’s what “in sequence “ means- just want to make sure. On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:40 PM Jim Brown

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/20/2021 7:50 PM, Buck K4IA wrote: More turns is better until we get to very large chokes where the inter-coil capacitance lowers the impedance. No. See my post in this thread about resonance. BTW -- I strongly agree that clamp-ons should be secured with a ty-wrap. And something I

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/20/2021 6:21 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Others can speak more authoritatively about this, but I thought those clamp-on cores, where they go right on the existing run of coax, offered too little inductance to be of much use below VHF.  Experts? That's right, sort of. But it misses the

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Buck K4IA
The impedance increases with the square of the turns.  2 turns = 4 times the impedance.  It would take 4 chokes in series to equal one choke with 2 turns.  A "turn" is one pass through the middle.  More turns is better until we get to very large chokes where the inter-coil capacitance lowers

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread David Herring
Pete, Yes. You either have to have lots of them, or you need to get bigger ones and run multiple turns through them. Also get the right “mix” for the frequency range in question. Type 31 is pretty good for HF. Not an expert, but studied http://k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Dave
I wire tie mine closed once in place... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 12/20/21 17:02, Bob McGraw wrote: For those using the clamp-on ferrite devices, when

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Others can speak more authoritatively about this, but I thought those clamp-on cores, where they go right on the existing run of coax, offered too little inductance to be of much use below VHF.  Experts? 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network web server at

Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread David Herring
Even when properly sized, as an added insurance policy, I run a zip tie around the perimeter of the clamp-on and cinch it down tight to ensure that the two halves are in solid contact with each other. It may not be a problem, but just in case there is any play or give in the plastic snap and

[Elecraft] RFIth

2021-12-20 Thread Bob McGraw
For those using the clamp-on ferrite devices, when installing them, be sure part A closes completely and solidly contacts part B.   Otherwise, there is no flux path and the device is ineffective.  If it is closed and loose on the cable, then that's good.   If it is closed or difficult to