Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/9/2014 11:26 PM, F5vjc wrote: This amazingly seems to be of no consequence to the majority as I very rarely hear bad audio or CW clicks being brought to the attention of the offending op. Just this week I had to admonish one of our net participants who fancies himself as an electronic

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-11 Thread F5vjc
Well I believe it is better to 'close talk' most microphones in a typical Ham shack environment, 2 inches typically. Reduces background noise and reverberation. Most of us are not operating in a broadcast studio acoustically dead environment. Of course, adjust Mic gain and Compression to suit,

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - This thread was closed yesterday in the interest of reducing list overload. Eric elecraft.com On 4/11/2014 2:10 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 4/9/2014 11:26 PM, F5vjc wrote: This amazingly seems to be of no consequence to the majority as I very rarely hear bad audio or CW clicks being

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/11/2014 3:43 PM, F5vjc wrote: Well I believe it is better to 'close talk' most microphones in a typical Ham shack environment, 2 inches typically. Not if you are shouting into it. For PSK which I use my K2 for, there is a nice monitoring program called PSKmeter that gives a scope-like

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-10 Thread F5vjc
I agree the number of 'really' terrible signals is disgraceful, and perhaps a lot of it is due to the Contesting madness, Bigger Louder Fatter mentality. Sometimes deliberate, I know. However even in casual SSB operating the number of ops I hear, especially in Europe, with really bad signals is

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-10 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
Part of the problem, I think, is that people have simply forgotten how to monitor their own signal, or never bothered to learn how. It doesn’t matter if you’re using the latest DSP wizbang SSB radio or a Central Electronics 10A to transmit. Listening to yourself on an IF level “audio”

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-10 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Time to close the thread in the interest of improving list Signal to noise ratio. 73, Eric List Moderator elecraft.com _..._ On Apr 10, 2014, at 6:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN n...@tx.rr.com wrote: Part of the problem, I think, is that people have simply forgotten how to monitor their own

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-10 Thread george fritkin
What a station needs is a good, considerate operator.   George, W6GF On Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:05 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN n...@tx.rr.com wrote: Part of the problem, I think, is that people have simply forgotten how to monitor their own signal, or never bothered to learn how.  It doesn’t matter

[Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Ferdinand
Dear Elecraft, We are in critical need of a device that will allow us to monitor our *actual* transmitted signal. There are so many rotten signals out there it’s pathetic. Since it would appear the offshore manufacturers are clueless as to the need for clean signals, perhaps pressure can be

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Gary, The Sensor: input on the rear of th P3 is there for that purposehowever, the device has not been announced by Elecraft to date despite repeated requests. I too really do want to be able to monitor my TX signal, one of the disadvantages I have is that I operate Portable from my

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Petiford
at ‎04‎:‎53‎ ‎PM To: Gary Ferdinand alapa...@taconic.net CC: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals Gary,The Sensor: input on the rear of th P3 is there for thatpurposehowever, the device has not been announced by Elecraft to datedespite repeated requests.I

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread riese-k3djc
If I had a device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my transmitted signal that might suffice. Just get rid of ESSB on 75 meters Har Bob K3DJC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Just hope that ESSB goes away along with Roger Beeps and after market audio products would help clean up a few rubbish signals on all bands...:-) gary On 10 April 2014 11:22, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote: If I had a device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my transmitted

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Milverton M. Swire
Gary, what are you going to do about all the over active ALC, sprinkled with copious amount of Compression and marinated with an excessive amount of mic gain on any given contest weekend? These by far out numbered the ESSBer we are so quick to mentioned! Just wondering? 73 Milverton.

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/9/2014 6:56 PM, Milverton M. Swire wrote: all the over active ALC, sprinkled with copious amount of Compression and marinated with an excessive amount of mic gain on any given contest weekend? I put about 24 hours into WPX SSB a week or so ago, and the number of AWFUL signals nearly

Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I like the CQ messages with a different voice that comes back to you. Usually the CQ message from a certain area is really bad sounding but the real ops sound much better. Sadly I believe many intentionally distort their audio to make their signals wider. Mike W0MU On 4/9/2014 11:09 PM,