Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom, There is no one universally 'good' solder. Each builder has what is familiar to him and has worked well in the past. I offer my own best explanations below: I do know of one expert builder who uses .031 diameter solder for everything, including SMD construction - but he is an exceptio

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom McCulloch Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 7:07 PM To: Marty Young; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits I haven't been following this thread, but the poster seems to make a valid

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-08-01 Thread Tom McCulloch
I haven't been following this thread, but the poster seems to make a valid point. I built K2 #1103 several years ago and the thinking at that time was to use an alloy of silver solder. So that's what I did. Once my kit was built I more or less ignored the posts regarding solder, but about a

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Michael B
Or credit for a K3 or other elecraft item. On 8/1/07, Craig Rairdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in > > Rochester - we were immersed in a active "employee > > suggestion program". > > When I worked for Rockwell Collins (the old Collins Radio Company

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Fred (FL)
Craig - in the late 80's early 90's, I used to run a large Uncle Sam gov microelectronics program - and we had a contract with I believe TRW or Rockwell, whom had taken over that facility from Collins. The Collins ARC still had their tower off to 1 side. Neat area - very close to Newport Beach,

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Craig Rairdin
> While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in > Rochester - we were immersed in a active "employee > suggestion program". When I worked for Rockwell Collins (the old Collins Radio Company) they had a "Productivity Improvement Program". We had to submit ideas for posters to be put up around

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread Fred (FL)
While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in Rochester - we were immersed in a active "employee suggestion program". Every accepted suggestion, especially if a cost-saver - would result in Kodak giving submitter employee(s) a percentage 1-time of the dollars saved for the company. The recent

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?

2007-08-01 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/31/07 10:10:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > why not just put > solder in the kit? (Like Heathkit used to do.) > IIRC, Heath did not always include solder in their kits. They finally started to do so because of all the problems caused by builders u

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Ken Kopp
Marty, You're "cutting off your nose to spite your face", so goes an old saying. So someone was maybe less-than-kind in their reply. Happens sometimes ... There's a HUGE resirvoir of information and folks eager to help available for the asking on the reflector. Someone DID give a reasonab

Re: Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
>Yes, I was serious. If you disagree, rather than >insult me, why not make an intelligent argument to the >contrary? Many others did. OK, I will. This is not a personal attack, it is a statement of philosophy. Notice that I took names off this post and the previous one. I've been a ham for

Re: Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:09:32 -0700 (PDT), Marty Young wrote: >Yes, I was serious. If you disagree, rather than >insult me, why not make an intelligent argument to the >contrary? Many others did. OK, I will. I've been a ham for ___ Elecraft mailin

Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Marty Young
t; From: "Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Elecraft List" > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:29:56 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits > > Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but > this takes the > cake! Next he's go

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Thom LaCosta wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Jim Brown wrote: And Jim Brown bounces messages sent to him wanting folks to confirm that they really sent them. It's like calling CQ and when you hear an answer, telling the person to send you a QSL and then you'll answer.

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Jim Brown wrote: Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Next he's gonna want dikes, needlenose, a magnifier, and a soldering iron! And then, in order to offset the costs, Elecraft could ship the manual and a small selection of paint and brus

RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Brett gazdzinski
>From monitoring the mail here, it would seem like a lot (most?) of the problems with the kits are solder related. I had no problems with anything I have built, despite very fast build times, and I would guess that is because I have had LOTS of soldering practice. (solder all day long for years an

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys - As per the list guidelines, please do make personal attacks against others on the list. Its inappropriate and unnecessary. Let's keep it cordial. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator Jim Brown wrote: Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Nex

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
Is this guy serious? I know hams are cheap, but this takes the cake! Next he's gonna want dikes, needlenose, a magnifier, and a soldering iron! 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Stuart Rohre
In my Heathkit time, they did not provide the solder, (1957). First I tried Kester rosin core. But later, I bought Ersin Multicore, (today Multicore Solders), upon the suggestion of some experienced ham, and it was the most superior solder I had used. I used Kester, but did not get the qualit

Re: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread AJSOENKE
I taught classes using heathkit resources for many years until 1999 when they gave it up. In the end they still shipped some kits as part of their educational effort and I had my students building hundreds of their kits. They were by far the best choice for education. After taking a break f

[Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits

2007-07-31 Thread Jeremiah McCarthy
I don't think Elecraft should supply solder...It might be a nice gesture, but with the escalating price of solder due to RoHS, I think it would place an unnecessary economic and RoHS compliance burden on Elecraft which could impact the price of kits...If the builder is "green", he has the choice