[Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-02-02 Thread Bob McGraw
I'll show my age by doing this, but lets revert mentally back to the Collins S Line.   The transceiver, using a pair of 6146's in the PA, was most efficient and linear when properly tuned and loaded.  It produced about 120 to 140 watts of PEP output.  And there was NO Power control or method

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Not sure I see the difference.  AVC [now called AGC aka audio compression], at it's simplest rectifies the audio from the detector and uses it as variable bias on one or more of the IF stages such that the IF gain is inversely proportional to the audio level.  The original goal was to provide

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Walter Underwood
“The modulator” means “the modulator code in the DSP” of course. If the compression is done by RF limiting, I expect that is also done in the DSP. The ALC you are describing is transmitter gain ALC. That is different from audio gain ALC. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Andy Durbin
"If so, the ALC would be before the modulator and compression after it." I remember modulators but there isn't one in my TS-590. I doubt there is one in any modern rig. In the TS-590 architecture compression is done in DSP (Digital Signal Processing) and ALC is applied way down path at a TX

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Walter Underwood
ws6x@gmail.com wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen >> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC? >> >> I can remember

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Gil Drynan
It sure does. > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC? > > I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on th

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Bob Schwerdlin
Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC? I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like canned beer and sliced bread. It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal and fill o

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread Walter Underwood
I expect that ALC is being used for two different parts of the transmission chain. Audio ALC would reduce the dynamic range of the audio. That automatically reduces the microphone gain to maintain a consistent level of modulation. That would be inside the audio part of transmitter, before the

Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread ws6x.ars
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC? I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" showed up and was i

[Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread Fred Jensen
I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal and fill out your RF envelope with DX inducing energy.  It didn't