Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-19 Thread Stuart Rohre
When soldering APP connectors, it is important to not get oversplash of solder outside the cup, on the outer wall of the contact, or it does not push into the shell to the locking point. Here, we tin the inside of the cup, and the wire end, then insert the wire end and reheat the cup to join t

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-19 Thread Stuart Rohre
okups with wire ties as a clamping agent. -Stuart K5KVH - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors I am new to APP's. I picked up the Racheting crimper from West

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-19 Thread Charles Harpole
I like a connector I do not have to glue together. come on get reasonable. GLUE Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-19 Thread james1787
I am new to APP's. I picked up the Racheting crimper from West Mountain Radio and a bag full of APP's at Dayton this year. So far they seem to crimp nicely. If you're careful, you can even get 10 guage wire on the 30 amp connections (I forgot to buy 45 amps..). What I like about them is that th

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Richard Thorne
John: I was just going to make that reference to R/C airplanes. I fly large electric planes, my largest being almost 12 pounds. I run 10 lithium polymer batteries in series for a total of just over 34 volts at full load which draws approximately 62 amps. I'm using 45 amp APP's and they work

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread John Payne
See bottom post: Phil Kane wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:44:08 +, Charles Harpole wrote: ARRL's idea to standardize on Anderson is similarily a mistake... and their idea is especially applied to emergency comm... the very place where weird fixtures are another disaster. Our ARE

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:44:08 +, Charles Harpole wrote: >ARRL's idea to standardize on Anderson is similarily a >mistake... and their idea is especially applied to emergency >comm... the very place where weird fixtures are another disaster. Our ARES group has standardized on the Anderson PPs

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Stuart Rohre
Binding posts (American models), are only rated at 5 Amps in standard Laboratory 5 way size. Properly assembled Anderson Connectors with their clip do not move around. They are silver plated, a big plus over other available power connectors. The contacts are self cleaning each time they are pl

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:45:32 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: >The way I use the APPs is to make up a short (6 inch) cable with >a connector on one end matching the equipment - that usually >stays with that piece of equipment, but I have spares for those >too. Then I make up a goodly number of extension

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
I too have had good experience with APPs and the rigrunner - hate those Molex connectors. The way I use the APPs is to make up a short (6 inch) cable with a connector on one end matching the equipment - that usually stays with that piece of equipment, but I have spares for those too. Then I m

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
'Course the ARRL had declared the Molex connector the standard a few years earlier, and we adopted it completely. We had no interest in changing everything again, so we're still on Molex. On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, W2AGN wrote: Craig Rairdin wrote: The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Clark B. Wierda
My experience is quite opposite from what has been mentioned. I've had multiple failures of the Molex connector. The only APP failure I had was crib death of a cable made with the "plier" type crimper. Jump kit includes the ratchet crimper and a couple bags of spare assemblies. I also carry spa

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread W2AGN
Craig Rairdin wrote: >> The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are a bad choice for this >> application why? : > > I've never understood the fascination with these connectors. They seem > rather flakey and cheap to me. You don't always get a solid connection. They > move around too much especial

RE: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message- The one thing you *can* do with APP is offset one from the other and plug only the red of one into the black of the other, and if there is some other ground path, you can lose. - That won't happen if you put the locking pin in. Le

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Mike S
At 11:44 PM 7/17/2007, Charles Harpole wrote... The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are a bad choice for this application why? : In less time than it took to write your complaint, you could have made up an APP to binding post/banana plug adapter cable, and solved the problem you have.

RE: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:32:57 -0500, Craig Rairdin wrote: >I've never understood the fascination with these connectors. >They seem rather flakey and cheap to me. You don't always get a >solid connection. They move around too much especially with a >heavy-conductor wire hanging off them. If you're g

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
I have only used APP once - and that was enough. I do not like then, binding posts are preferable. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: "Craig Rairdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've never understood the fascination with these connectors. They seem rather flakey and cheap to me.

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Just to elaborate on Sandy's point about 24v for those who don't know, you can assemble a pair of APP connectors with one rotated 90 degrees, or with them aligned vertically instead of horizontally, and they won't fit with the standard 12v ham/ARES configuration, insuring safety. I don't know

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I find them really quite convenient. I have used lots of connectors, including round ampex, jones cinch, molex, trailer, spade/round lugs, fahenstock clips, and plenty in between over the past nearly 40 years, and these are the best I have found for lvdc applications over a fairly wide current

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Sandy
ring an outing or emergency situation. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Charles Harpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:44 PM Subject: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

RE: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Craig Rairdin
> The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are a bad choice for this > application why? : I've never understood the fascination with these connectors. They seem rather flakey and cheap to me. You don't always get a solid connection. They move around too much especially with a heavy-conductor wire

Re: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread David King
No crimper/iron in the field? I carry both all the time. And, our club had both available at field day and at every other event we do, also. I also ordered enough APP's to carry spares...the minimum bag size is 10 per bagand IMHO they're cheap. I live in a part of the world where the c

[Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors

2007-07-18 Thread Charles Harpole
The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are a bad choice for this application why? : 1, require either a special crimper or solder no crimper, no luck. No iron in the field, no luck. 2. Break one of these puppies and if u live in 90% of the world where these things are not available, n