Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-06-03 Thread Nicklas Johnson
Happy to report that the subwoofer problem got about 95% better with the placement of ferrites immediately before the subwoofer on the power cord, the LFE channel and the speaker channels. It still picks up just a tiny bit of 20m racket even with nothing connected to it, which I suspect could be a

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/23/2020 5:01 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: Sadly, it seems like most consumer-grade audio equipment is optimized more for cost than for design quality and RFI suppression, even equipment that's supposed to be "high-end." And then sometimes you can buy a piece of cheap gear and it rejects RF be

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Nicklas Johnson
I certainly agree. And of course there's no "one size fits all" for RFI problems. I think it's somewhat likely I have multiple problems going on here too; I noticed, for example, that even when it's completely disconnected from all its audio inputs, I can still hear a little racket on the sub; it

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Dave Cole
All of Jim's material is like gold for RFI suppression. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 5/23/20 2:02 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: Thanks, Dave.  A very good point about the a

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Nicklas Johnson
Thanks, Dave. A very good point about the amp picking up stray RF off the cable and returning it as audio; I'll be sure to clamp down on both ends. It's definitely not a new problem, and I've used Jim's recommendations to much success in the past. In fact, I referenced it again today because I c

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/23/2020 9:37 AM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: The backstory as briefly as I can make it: I wanted to place my home theater subwoofer in the corner of our living room; doing so required running two speaker wires and a coaxial cable under the house and plugging the subwoofer into a different outlet

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Dave Cole
I would put the ferrite material as close to the speaker as possible, and as close as possible to the amp... It is important you also protect the amp from stray RF. If the speaker cable is picking up RF, and feeding it back into the audio amp output stage, you can get rectification within tha

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Walter Underwood
I know you already ran the cables, but twisted pair would probably help. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 23, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: > > The backstory as briefly as I can make it: I wanted to place my home > theater subwoo

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Nicklas Johnson
I've got a set of these on the way, as well as a handful of their next two smaller siblings, just because I like to have a variety in my desk for various applications: https://www.fair-rite.com/product/round-cable-snap-its-2631181381/ Given the arrangement at the subwoofer of wall-connection-->iso

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Peter Dougherty
there's just the two of us in the house. - pjd -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Nicklas Johnson Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:38 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers? The backstory

Re: [Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Dave Cole
Grab some FT-240/31 ferrites from Fair-Rite, (these are the large rings), and put seven or eight turns of speaker cable through each, tight wound. Add one at the speaker, and one at the amp. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL

[Elecraft] ferrites for subwoofer: before or after isolation transformers?

2020-05-23 Thread Nicklas Johnson
The backstory as briefly as I can make it: I wanted to place my home theater subwoofer in the corner of our living room; doing so required running two speaker wires and a coaxial cable under the house and plugging the subwoofer into a different outlet than the AV receiver; this in turn resulted in