Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread K8TE
Don, While perhaps "obvious," the models you describe are not updates of previous versions in the order as W3FPR pointed out in a subsequent message. Those radios are very different from each other in many aspects, especially performance. Although, each is considered by most to be a top performe

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Robert Brown via Elecraft
An updated K3? I think they’re called “a keeper.” Bob Brown, N1CVX K3 # 327 Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@m

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Charlie T
lie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Don Schroder Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:57 AM To: Rich ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? Hi all, It's very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, the

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Dick Dickinson
For those who dwell far to the right of the decimal point (rather than in caves), I suppose there could be a whole alphabet of suffix designations. My precise intent was a light-hearted, generic characterization. My K3 (Vintage - Upgraded) is not currently up for sale. Dick - KA5KKT ---

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Grant Youngman
Except, it doesn’t actually MEAN anything. Unless you’ve been living in a cave since you bought one, almost every K3 is “upgraded” to some extent. It doesn’t solve the basic problem — a K3 (or even K3S to a lesser extent) needs to specify precisely (1) what published mods have been installed,

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Edward R Cole
Bernie, AF9US beat me to it. I thought K3U for updated or K3+. It would only designate it has hdwr updates but not which ones specifically. If selling, those should be listed by the seller and clarified whether self-installed or Elecraft-installed, which might matter to some buyers. My K3

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Walter Underwood
We could name them like fighter aircraft variants: K3 bis, K3 ter, K3 quater. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 11, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Clarification: > > The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni

[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Dick Dickinson
The term 'Vintage' is often used on eBay to impart certain aspects of an item. A K3S might be 'Modern.' An updated K3 could be 'Modernized Vintage.' Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/e

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Eric Norris
That one was slow, waist-high, and right over the plate. :-) 73 Eric WD6DBM On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 8:11 AM Don Wilhelm Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain. > The K1 came later, followed by the KX1. > Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Rich Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Don Schroder
ecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as o

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Rich
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S.   The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as options go.   That is the bottom line.   To me the K3S op

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Michael P. Rioux
mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Raymond Sills > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? > > So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it > from a K3S. > >

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Grant Youngman
Couldn’t agree more. I’ll wager there is at least one early K3 out there with a new synthesizer board and none of the published K3 updates installed. Sure .. it’s “upgraded”, but what is it? The whole “I have a K3S and you have a mere K3” bit of puffery going around is just … well … puffery :

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be listed as a K3 SN with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the buyer knows what he is buying. I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for i

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread John K9UWA
One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or other places where the radios are discussed. I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following differenc

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Charlie T
orrect.just as this thread has gotten. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Raymond Sills Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? So. let's call it a K3U... (U f

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Clarification: The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3.  There is a difference, in model number and performance and features.  Thus from my take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the recommended factory upgrades installed.    And a K3S is a K3S that can on

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Doug Person
K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades. Doug -- KJ0F On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"? Back to my lab where I belong Wayne N6KR On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Ri

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I'd say it is called and "updated K3".   The K3S is different and my understanding is that a K3 can not be updated to be a K3S. All abet similar, in the end, they are different radios.    For that fact alone, the reason I purchased a K3S and not a K3 73 Bob, K4TAX __

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Raymond Sills
So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from a K3S. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? .

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Martin Sole
Guessing you would check the serial number first, rear panel AND menu. That would tell you straight off Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jan 2019, at 18:59, "j...@kk9a.com" wrote: > > Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be > most unhappy. > > John KK9A > > >

[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread j...@kk9a.com
Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be most unhappy. John KK9A Rich k3RWN I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN __ Elecraft mailing lis

[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Bernie Lavezza via Elecraft
What’s an updated K3 to be called? This is a no-brainer! You guys love to analyze — even to the point of OT! Analyze this! (Love the movie!): My suggestion is: K3U. It is simple, bears nice resemblance to the manufacturer’s existing model naming scheme. As an interested but non-owner

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Brilliant Rich, I like it. - 73 - Petr, OK1RP "Apple & Elecraft freak" B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com G+:http://goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: http://goo.gl/gP99xq -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-11 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
...and one more think, the ATU bypass relay if I am right ;) - 73 - Petr, OK1RP "Apple & Elecraft freak" B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com G+:http://goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: http://goo.gl/gP99xq -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ___

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Lee Ormiston
Or, singing A Capella while in laboratory! On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:15 PM Eric Norris wrote: > I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD > backlight setting > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich > > I kind of like > > > > K3s (lower case S) is mod

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Eric Norris
I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD backlight setting 73 Eric WD6DBM On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich I kind of like > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > Rich > > K3RWN > >

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Ed W0YK
And the new rubber band on the knob. 73,Ed W0YK Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date: 1/10/19 19:01 (GMT-08:00) To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"? Back to my lab where I belong Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich wrote: > > I kind of like > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > Rich > >

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread AB4IQ
-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 9:01 PM To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Rich
I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread hbjr
:-D -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:01 PM To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO

Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and syn

[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

2019-01-10 Thread Jamie WW3S
what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: