Don,
While perhaps "obvious," the models you describe are not updates of previous
versions in the order as W3FPR pointed out in a subsequent message. Those
radios are very different from each other in many aspects, especially
performance. Although, each is considered by most to be a top performe
An updated K3? I think they’re called “a keeper.”
Bob Brown, N1CVX
K3 # 327
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Don Schroder
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Rich ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Hi all,
It's very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, the
For those who dwell far to the right of the decimal point (rather than in
caves), I suppose there could be a whole alphabet of suffix designations. My
precise intent was a light-hearted, generic characterization. My K3 (Vintage -
Upgraded) is not currently up for sale.
Dick - KA5KKT
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Except, it doesn’t actually MEAN anything. Unless you’ve been living in a cave
since you bought one, almost every K3 is “upgraded” to some extent. It doesn’t
solve the basic problem — a K3 (or even K3S to a lesser extent) needs to
specify precisely (1) what published mods have been installed,
Bernie, AF9US beat me to it. I thought K3U for updated or K3+.
It would only designate it has hdwr updates but not which ones
specifically. If selling, those should be listed by the seller and
clarified whether self-installed or Elecraft-installed, which might
matter to some buyers.
My K3
We could name them like fighter aircraft variants: K3 bis, K3 ter, K3 quater.
wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
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http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> On Jan 11, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>
> Clarification:
>
> The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni
The term 'Vintage' is often used on eBay to impart certain aspects of an item.
A K3S might be 'Modern.'
An updated K3 could be 'Modernized Vintage.'
Dick - KA5KKT
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That one was slow, waist-high, and right over the plate. :-)
73 Eric WD6DBM
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 8:11 AM Don Wilhelm Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain.
> The K1 came later, followed by the KX1.
> Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.
Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as o
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.
Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S op
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
>
> So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it
> from a K3S.
>
>
Couldn’t agree more. I’ll wager there is at least one early K3 out there with
a new synthesizer board and none of the published K3 updates installed. Sure
.. it’s “upgraded”, but what is it?
The whole “I have a K3S and you have a mere K3” bit of puffery going around is
just … well … puffery :
All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be
listed as a K3 SN with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the
buyer knows what he is buying.
I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they
are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for i
One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.
I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector
or
other places where the radios are discussed.
I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
differenc
orrect.just as
this thread has gotten.
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
So. let's call it a K3U... (U f
Clarification:
The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3.
There is a difference, in model number and performance and features.
Thus from my take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the
recommended factory upgrades installed. And a K3S is a K3S that can
on
K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades.
Doug -- KJ0F
On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson
of K3"?
Back to my lab where I belong
Wayne
N6KR
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Ri
I'd say it is called and "updated K3". The K3S is different and my
understanding is that a K3 can not be updated to be a K3S. All abet
similar, in the end, they are different radios. For that fact alone,
the reason I purchased a K3S and not a K3
73
Bob, K4TAX
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So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from
a K3S.
73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211
-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick
To: Jamie WW3S
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
.
Guessing you would check the serial number first, rear panel AND menu. That
would tell you straight off
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> On 11 Jan 2019, at 18:59, "j...@kk9a.com" wrote:
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> Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be
> most unhappy.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
>
Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be
most unhappy.
John KK9A
Rich k3RWN
I kind of like
K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
Rich
K3RWN
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What’s an updated K3 to be called?
This is a no-brainer!
You guys love to analyze — even to the point of OT! Analyze this! (Love the
movie!):
My suggestion is: K3U. It is simple, bears nice resemblance to the
manufacturer’s existing model naming scheme.
As an interested but non-owner
Brilliant Rich, I like it.
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:15 PM Eric Norris
wrote:
> I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD
> backlight setting
>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich
> > I kind of like
> >
> > K3s (lower case S) is mod
I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD
backlight setting
73 Eric WD6DBM
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich I kind of like
>
> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
>
> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>
> Rich
>
> K3RWN
>
>
And the new rubber band on the knob.
73,Ed W0YK
Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date:
1/10/19 19:01 (GMT-08:00) To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft
Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3
called?
...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO
Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is
"Stepson of K3"?
Back to my lab where I belong
Wayne
N6KR
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich wrote:
>
> I kind of like
>
> K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
>
> K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
>
> Rich
>
>
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 9:01 PM
To: Jamie WW3S
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display
I kind of like
K3s (lower case S) is modified K3
K3S (upper case S) is the new radio
Rich
K3RWN
On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in
it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:01 PM
To: Jamie WW3S
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO
...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel,
and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the
RF board :)
Wayne
N6KR
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
>
> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and syn
what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in
it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board.
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