Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Curt
I tried TWO good watt meters on the K2 and I found that the K2 is NOT accurate. The ONLY place I found it to be accurate is at exactly two watts. I also found that my K2/100 will go down to 100 Mw then jump to just over one watt, then to over to three and etc, it's not a smooth transition. I

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Stewart Baker
100 MW now that's what I call QRPP ! When is the next Elecraft QRO amp due ? :) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 24 May 2006 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Curt wrote: I tried TWO good watt meters on the K2 and I found that the K2 is NOT accurate. The ONLY place I found it to be accurate is at exactly two

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
The basic K2 power ouput indication is very accurate when operating into a 50 ohm non-reactive load. If it is driving anything other than that load, the indication will be inaccurate - he basic K2 does not have a wattmeter, t does have an RF Probe type detector which reports the RF Voltage to the

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Curt, The base K2 power reading is quite accurate if (and only if) the load is 50 ohms pure resistance. See my other post on the subject. Since you have a K2/100, the included wattmeter should be as accurate as your calibration of it. Prhaps you should re-do the calibration - or possibly both

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Darwin, Keith
Thanks Don, So with my basic K2, I should get agreement between the K2's setting and its output when driving my 50 ohm dummy load. I'll check it that way and report back. I never completed the RF probe with the K2 (didn't need it). I assume it simply converts RF AC voltage into DC voltage

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Larry Phipps
It's a standard diode peak detector I believe, so it would indicate 31.7 VDC (minus the drop) at 10 W for a 50 ohm load. I expect the drop is about 0.3 V. Larry N8LP Darwin, Keith wrote: Thanks Don, So with my basic K2, I should get agreement between the K2's setting and its output

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Darwin, Keith
Ya lost me there Larry. P = E^^2 / R. R is 50 ohms, P is 10 watts, E works out to sqrt(500) or 22.36 volts. But are we talking RMS, peak, or peak-to-peak? Let's see, if my number is an RMS and you're number is peak, then 22.36 is about 22.4. Multiply by 1.41 and I get 31.6 Pretty close to

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Dettinger
- Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:29 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy? K2 - all it takes is a known non-reactive 50 ohm load. I use 1

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Rick, K7MW asked: With my K2 into a DL1, my WM-2 meter shows up to 20 % higher power than my DMM and slide rule indicates. Is the DL1 likely more accurate than my WM-2 meter. If so, I will recalibrate my K2 with the DL1 and DDM. Than I will have a stronger QRP signal and be able to work 300

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Larry Phipps
At 15W the DL-1 is by far more accurate. It is probably within a few percent, based on a normal random distribution of resistor values, and 5% worst case if they're all off in the same direction. Keep in mind though that the resistance changes as temperature rises... so it's best to take a