Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-07 Thread Alan Bloom
One way to get better-sounding audio, both on transmit and receive, is to use a wider-bandwidth crystal filter and let the DSP do most of the filtering. Because the digital filter is linear-phase it will sound much more natural than an analog non-linear-phase filter. That's why I leave ESSB enabl

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-07 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Alan Bloom wrote: > > One way to get better-sounding audio, both on transmit and receive, is > to use a wider-bandwidth crystal filter and let the DSP do most of the > filtering. Because the digital filter is linear-phase it will sound > much more natural than an analog non-linear-phase filter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-07 Thread Alan Bloom
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 13:44, Julian, G4ILO wrote: > If crystal filters distort the phase enough to make an audible difference on > speech how the heck do we ever manage to receive PSK through them? Most of the phase distortion tends to occur at the band edges. As long as the PSK signal is signif

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
If crystal filters distort the phase enough to make an audible difference on speech how the heck do we ever manage to receive PSK through them? The phase distortion is most pronounced near the corner frequency of the crystal filter. PSK, at least PSK31, is a very narrow mode and the chang ei

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-07 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:44:26 -0800 (PST), Julian, G4ILO wrote: >If crystal filters distort the phase enough to make an audible difference on >speech how the heck do we ever manage to receive PSK through them? Phase shift is greatest where amplitude response is changing rapidly -- that is, at the

RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave G4AON > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:38 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver > > > The explanation from the article is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Bill W4ZV
Dave G4AON wrote: > > The explanation from the article is as follows: > > "When noise pulses/spikes pass through a crystal > filter, the phase response of the filter > changes, depending on the noise frequency. > However, when noise pulses/spikes pass > through an ADC with a linear response, t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread David Woolley
Dave G4AON wrote: SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury receiver and explain why the SDR sounds better than the K3 (noise through a crystal filter causing phase changes). The K3 is also an SDR! -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Dave G4AON
The explanation from the article is as follows: "When noise pulses/spikes pass through a crystal filter, the phase response of the filter changes, depending on the noise frequency. However, when noise pulses/spikes pass through an ADC with a linear response, the phase response stays the same, bec

RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread N8LP
For casual SSB operating I listen to my LP-PAN / PowerSDR panadapter which is fed from ahead of the xtal filters, and for dabbling in contests or operating CW (where latency can be an issue) I listen to the K3. I am not in Europe where things can be dicey, but I have yet to see enough total peak e

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Bill W4ZV
James R. Duffey wrote: >I realize that this is not the specific environment you are talking about. Correct. VHF Contests and HF Contests are two entirely different animals. I honestly don't know of *any* serious (i.e. Top Ten class) HF contesters that use SDRs. However I expect quite a few

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-16 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Dave G4AON wrote: Members of the RSGB may wish to sneak a preview of the December RadCom article on SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury receiver and explain why the SDR sounds better than the K3 (noise through a crystal filter causing phase changes). I've read the article an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David, If you have not read it, the December 2008 issue of QST contains another review of the Perseus. Although I own a Perseus, which I bought for use as a piece of test equipment, I do not own a K3 thus cannot compare their 'sound'. I can say though that I have never been comfortable with