Re: [EM] using welfare functions in election methods

2006-05-17 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Raphael! You wrote: > There seems to be a difference in how the sums are occuring. This > welfare function applies a negative utility to people having wealth > that is not average. If you refer to the Gini social welfare function, this is not true! Increasing any individual welfare always i

Re: [EM] using welfare functions in election methods

2006-05-17 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Stephen! You wrote: > Can we confirm that "welfare" is a synonym for > "utility"? As far as it is just a name, sure. However, on the group (society) level, the term "utility" seems to be used most often for the *sum* of the individual utilities, that is, for a *specific* social welfare funct

Re: [EM] using welfare functions in election methods

2006-05-17 Thread Raphael Ryan
Stephen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nice to see a discussion of welfare in this context. >Can we confirm that "welfare" is a synonym for >"utility"? There seems to be a difference in how the sums are occuring. This welfare function applies a negative utility to people having wealth that

[EM] using welfare functions in election methods

2006-05-17 Thread Stephen Turner
Nice to see a discussion of welfare in this context. Can we confirm that "welfare" is a synonym for "utility"? A starting model would be: given a voting system which is sufficiently expressive (perhaps a range system), assume that everyone just votes their welfare directly, and see where that gets

Re: [EM] Electoral College

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Poole
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax writes: > If Mr. Poole thinks that what I wrote was "political rant," I wonder > what planet he is from. He is certainly free to ignore it, as is > anyone. But what I wrote was little more than what is commonly > believed among, for example, legal experts regarding the 2000 ele