Re: [EM] Why Mike Ossipoff's "unbised apportionment method" cannot be taken seriously

2007-01-16 Thread Ka-Ping Yee
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Neither Smith nor Ossipoff are stupid. Both can make mistakes, I'm > sure. Even math mistakes. However, I would hate to see their > considerable talents wasted on senseless arguments over personalities. Well said. I commend you. -- ?!ng ele

[EM] Aha, think I understand Ossipoff now (& apologize for misunderstanding...)

2007-01-16 Thread Warren Smith
Here is an attempt to derive what Mike Ossipoff MAY have had in mind for his "unbiased method." I have no mindreading ability, so this is only a guess. But I believe I now have the right guess. What is the value y so that integral(from A to y) 1-A/x dx =integral(from y to B) B/x-1 dx

Re: [EM] Why Mike Ossipoff's "unbised apportionment method" cannot be taken seriously

2007-01-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:20 PM 1/16/2007, Warren Smith wrote: >Regarding why Mike Ossipoff's "bias free apportionment method" is bogus. >I am sorry Mike has forced me to explain this. I wished to inform him >re flaws in private, but Ossipoff has successfully forced me, quite >against my will, to make a fool of him

[EM] Why Mike Ossipoff's "unbised apportionment method" cannot be taken seriously

2007-01-16 Thread Warren Smith
Regarding why Mike Ossipoff's "bias free apportionment method" is bogus. I am sorry Mike has forced me to explain this. I wished to inform him re flaws in private, but Ossipoff has successfully forced me, quite against my will, to make a fool of him in public. Let me quote his original post which

[EM] Huntington's apportionment paper of 1928

2007-01-16 Thread Warren Smith
This paper, which was the main reason the USA adopted the Huntington-Hill apportionment method, is available as a pdf file here: http://rangevoting.org/Hunti28.pdf Regarding Mike Ossipoff, I'd appreciate it if, when you post my private emails to you for the purpose of ranting about them, you pre

[EM] Typo

2007-01-16 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
In a recent posting, the 2nd time I said "a/q -1", I meant "b/q -1". When I said that between 0 and 1 it's an improper integral, but when evaluated it's 1/e, I meant that the answer for the rounding point is 1/e. When the two integration results are added, their sum set eaual to zero, and the

[EM] Part 3, Meet Warren Smith

2007-01-16 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Warren said: , but it is obvious to me that you messed up for several reasons). I reply: ...which you are unable to articulate. Apparently some sort of petty spite is among your reasons. well, alright. Your formula has 1.plainly wrong asymptotic behavior and I reply: BF's rounding point

[EM] Part 2, Meet Warren Smith

2007-01-16 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
From: "MIKE OSSIPOFF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Warren EM 2 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:57:31 + Warren said: well, you never showed us your math, but it is obvious to me that you messed up for several reasons I reply: I repeately gave instructions for the derivat

[EM] Meet Warren Smith

2007-01-16 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
I'm posting some comments from Warren Smith, and my replies. I emphasize that Warren's angry tone was there from the start, entirely unprovoked. I had never criticized Warren. This discussion is on-topic, because it's about the electoral system, even if it reveals someone's anger. How we di