[EM] RE : Hay Voting

2007-01-20 Thread Kevin Venzke
Peter, --- Peter de Blanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : last year, Marcello Herreshoff and I worked on a voting method which we called Hay Voting (after our friend Nick Hay). There's a description of the method online here: http://www.spaceandgames.com/?p=8 Can you give an example of how

Re: [EM] Strongest pair with single transfer (method)

2007-01-20 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi, --- Chris Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Kevin, My last message was a copy of one I sent to EM. You may want to reply on-list. Oops. Thanks. Here it is below, with one change and one addition: --- Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, --- Chris Benham [EMAIL

Re: [EM] Noise (Was: Credentials?)

2007-01-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:23 PM 1/19/2007, Ken Kuhlman wrote: That's not the only possible solution. Indeed, the solution has been known as in widespread use for a long, long time. It's called Robert's Rules of Order, and the chair is the equivalent of a moderator; the members of the meeting have absolute authority

Re: [EM] Noise (Was: Credentials?)

2007-01-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:33 PM 1/19/2007, Ken Kuhlman wrote: Perhaps there's another method of organizing the group that can help alleviate some of the pain, however. I recently ran across the free list serving site Nabble, which has an innovative solution to these problems. Take a look at www.nabble.com,

[EM] Simmons' solution of voting system design puzzle is inadequate

2007-01-20 Thread Warren Smith
Here is the current CRV web page about this problems and its (lack of) solution We are speaking about puzzle #5 at http://www.rangevoting.org/PuzzlePage.html --- Puzzle #5: Voting systems immune to clones and avoiding favorite-betrayal Puzzle: Two desirable properties of a voting system -

Re: [EM] Noise (Was: Credentials?)

2007-01-20 Thread RLSuter
Ken Kuhlman wrote, quoting and replying to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax: Does anyone have experience with Nabble, or know of other reasonable solutions to this problem? It's time we stop pretending the problem doesn't exist. At this stage, there is a simple solution. I've got the flu today and a

Re: [EM] Simmons' solution of voting system design puzzle is inadequate

2007-01-20 Thread Chris Benham
Warren Smith wrote: Here is the current CRV web page about this problems and its (lack of) solution We are speaking about puzzle #5 at http://www.rangevoting.org/PuzzlePage.html --- Puzzle #5: Voting systems immune to clones and avoiding favorite-betrayal Puzzle: Two desirable properties

[EM] Complexity and Fairness Questions

2007-01-20 Thread Joseph Malkevitch
Dear List, Here are some references to papers where complexity issues (in a variety of senses) involving fairness questions are raised: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/botrender.fcgi? blobtype=htmlartid=33742 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/lane/political-science.html

[EM] EM] Simmons' solution of voting system design puzzle is inadequate

2007-01-20 Thread Warren Smith
Benham: By this definition Range fails ICC because voters can only express preferences among clones by not giving maximum possible score to all of them, thus making it possible that if a narrow winner is replaced by a set of clones all the clones lose. --no. The definition in the problem

Re: [EM] Noise (Was: Credentials?)

2007-01-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:06 PM 1/20/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You aren't being harsh at all. In fact, to say that Lomax's response isn't good enough is putting it mildly. There is no excuse at all, not the flu or anything else, for dismissing one idea and asserting the superiority of an alternative idea without

Re: [EM] Simmons' solution of voting system design puzzle is inadequate

2007-01-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:00 PM 1/20/2007, Chris Benham wrote: By this definition Range fails ICC because voters can only express preferences among clones by not giving maximum possible score to all of them, thus making it possible that if a narrow winner is replaced by a set of clones all the clones lose. Now,

[EM] Historical apportionment biases

2007-01-20 Thread Dan Bishop
I finally got around to computing them. The attached spreadsheet contains the Spearman biases of the apportionments using the historical House sizes and apportionment populations. I plan on adding some non-divisor methods later. Year,Jefferson,Webster,Ossipoff,Hill,Dean,Adams