Re: [EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread Juho
On Apr 7, 2007, at 0:34 , James Gilmour wrote: > Juho> Sent: 06 April 2007 22:25 >> Also, to give more power directly to the voters, while maintaining an >> easy way to vote, easy understanding of what the candidates stand >> for, and with accountability. > > If that is what you want, why not just

Re: [EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:25 PM 4/6/2007, Juho wrote: >>Is Juho aware of the use of Asset Voting that I have proposed? It >>seems far simpler and more flexible than what Juho has proposed, >>with similar effect. > >Yes I'm aware of Asset Voting. There are similarities but also lots >of differences. Maybe the biggest

[EM] Portuguese dictator should be the greatest portuguese?

2007-04-06 Thread ricben
Dear all, I’m new to the Electorama list and also a begginer to voting methods. I would like some guidance from the list on how to guess the results of an election, that recently took place in my country, if different voting procedures, other than Plurality, were used. The story follows. The p

[EM] Summability (Efficient Parallelizability)

2007-04-06 Thread Forest W Simmons
For practical purposes any method based on rankings or range style ballots, can be closely approximated by a summable version. Since approval cutoffs can be incorporated into rankings and ratings, methods that require approval cutoffs can also be efficiently accomodated. It's based on the idea

Re: [EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread James Gilmour
Juho> Sent: 06 April 2007 22:25 > Also, to give more power directly to the voters, while maintaining an > easy way to vote, easy understanding of what the candidates stand > for, and with accountability. If that is what you want, why not just use STV-PR? Then there would be no party-controlled

Re: [EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread Juho
On Apr 6, 2007, at 19:17 , Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 09:52 AM 4/6/2007, Juho wrote: Here's one method for PR multi-winner elections. [...] Candidates (or parties) are free to form any kind groups. Some typical groups are parties and regions. The groups are allowed to be hierarchical and to

Re: [EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:52 AM 4/6/2007, Juho wrote: >Here's one method for PR multi-winner elections. [...] > >Candidates (or parties) are free to form any kind groups. Some >typical groups are parties and regions. The groups are allowed to be >hierarchical and to overlap. Also mandatory groups can be covered >withi

[EM] Is Alabama Paradox needed in MultiGroup elections?

2007-04-06 Thread Juho
- Four groups: L=Left, R=Right, N=North, S=South - Four candidates (or smaller groups): LN, RN, LS, RS - LN belongs to L and N, and similarly RN, LS and RS and belong to corresponding L, R, N and S groups - Votes: LN:30, RN:30, LS:30, RS:10 Case 1: One candidate elected - L gets more votes than

[EM] MultiGroup voting method

2007-04-06 Thread Juho
Here's one method for PR multi-winner elections. This is to some extent a derivation of tree based methods that I have discussed earlier, but since this one has also interesting use cases with flat structures, and tree based inheritance of votes is not explicitly used in the calculation pro