Re: [EM] To ws, re: Condorcet vs Approval

2007-07-19 Thread Howard Swerdfeger
> Every amendment like this is a pairwise election, and, as part of the > process, there is debate and open communication among the members; Fair enough, I believe you are correct. Thanks for the explanation. election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Rank methods are quirky. The best are worth it.

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
WS's example shows the quirkiness of even the best rank methods. They'll do unintended things that we'd rather they didn't do. Approval has a stability and behavioral simplicity that the rank methods don't have. But the best rank methods, such as SSD, MDDA and MAMPO, offer strategic advantages

[EM] And the Reds would hear about the order-reversal plan

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
You might say "But in a more realistic situation, with more candidates, one doesn't know who is going to order-reverse." I suggest that co-ordinated offensive order-reversal requires organization and public recommendation of it. There's no way that the Reds won't hear about the Blues' intent t

Re: [EM] To ws, re: Condorcet vs Approval

2007-07-19 Thread Howard Swerdfeger
> It is also important to understand that simple Plurality on a Yes/No > question, where the question is formed through deliberative process, > will settle on the Condorcet winner, when there is one. > > But, of course, deliberative process is far more complex than the polling > part. I am sor