Re: [EM] Reading rangevoting.org/VotMach.html paper ballots

2006-08-02 Thread Anthony Duff
I agree with Abd ul-Rahman Lomax below. The paper ballot is cheap, adaptable, and provides a paper trail. Dedicated voting machines are a bad idea. An excellent proposal I heard on PBS radio long ago is this: The voter uses a computer (any old basic PC) to create a ballot. The ballot is then

Re: [EM] Competitive Districting Rule. "above-the-line" voting

2006-07-19 Thread Anthony Duff
--- James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [on the introduction of optional party list "above the line" voting to the STV ballot] > I would assert that that change > has been so great that it constitutes a "perversion" of the original purpose > of > STV-PR. Sure. But does it distort the resul

Re: [EM] Competitive Districting Rule. "above-the-line" voting

2006-07-18 Thread Anthony Duff
--- James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note that subdivision of parties and their alliances and > > whatever other groupings add tools to the voter to express > > what she wants. Also models where STV like ordering is not > > used but the vote to James automatically goes to the smalle

Re: [EM] Mass Candidates

2006-07-06 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Stephane Rouillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > any system that would leave a default value for unvalued/unranked/unapproved > candidates would help. Personnaly, I would suggest: > A) Let the voter precise the score, rank or state of all unexpressed > preferences; > B) I favor preference-style

Re: [EM] Voting by selecting a published ordering

2006-04-17 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, this debate is becoming complex beyond any hope of value. I agree. The suggestion was that voting could be modified from plurality by converting a mark for a single candidate to a rank order as pre-defined by the candidate. I noted that thi

Re: [EM] Voting by selecting a published ordering

2006-04-03 Thread Anthony Duff
--- "Simmons, Forest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that Eppley's suggestion (in its simplest forms) requires only a standard > plurality style ballot, and each voter marks only one alternative (a > candidate's > name or a code word for somebody else's published ordering). > > This is exact

Re: [EM] Real IRV Election, Disputable Result

2006-03-21 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Jan Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Anthony Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I, like James, have thought about this. It is particularly relevant in the > common > > Australian electorate, where the voting pattern is (with A left, B squeezed &g

Re: [EM] Real IRV Election, Disputable Result

2006-03-21 Thread Anthony Duff
I, like James, have thought about this. It is particularly relevant in the common Australian electorate, where the voting pattern is (with A left, B squeezed centre, C right, extreme and other random candidates ignored): 45 ABC 5 BAC 5 BCA 45 CBA Even though with IRV, burying your favourite’s g

Re: [EM] election-methods Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4

2006-01-15 Thread Anthony Duff
In the legislatures (parliaments) that I am familiar with, if members want to abstain from a formal vote count, they have to leave the chamber. In these formal vote counts (divisions), all those voting one way move to one side of the chamber, those coting the other way move to the opposite side.

[EM] Wiki featuring Voting Systems today.

2006-01-05 Thread Anthony Duff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page is today (6 Jan 2006) featuring "Voting System" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Advantage of MDDA over Approval?

2005-12-06 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Jan Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the main technical problem with Approval is that it can be > difficult to decide whether to vote for compromise candidates in > addition to ones favorite. Does MDDA help? The special thing about approval is that it forces simplicity. I see the

Re: [EM] compulsory voting

2005-10-20 Thread Anthony Duff
ail it before the day. People who > >give a good reason why they couldn't vote are exempt from paying > the fine. > > The whole thing, however, is made more reasonable by the allowance > for postal voting. If you are poor, do you have to pay for the > stamp? Postal voting (a

Re: [EM] compulsory voting

2005-10-18 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absentee voting is a right in > many > states in the U.S. Is it permitted in Australia? If not, why not? It is. You need to have a reason, and sign your name to it. I'd worry about the routine use of absentee ballots, because it then become

Re: [EM] compulsory voting

2005-10-16 Thread Anthony Duff
--- Stephane Rouillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am against compulsory voting and compulsory full ranking. I am for compulsory voting, and against compulsory full ranking. > Not going to vote is the only way left to voters that want to say > all candidates are bad, No, you can write to a ne