Re: [EM] Intermediate Ratings Never Optimal?

2007-07-23 Thread Stephane Rouillon
It means that a non-extreme range votes ballot can be optimal, but if it is the case, at least two extreme range votes ballot should be optimal too. So if the linear optimum theorem applies and you have found some case where a non-extreme rating contributes to an optimal ballot strategy, thus you

Re: [EM] RE : Is "sincere" voting in Range suboptimal?

2007-07-23 Thread Stephane Rouillon
For more voters, it is not simple. For an optimal strategy, one that would optimize the result form the voter point of view, the question depends of the probability of the rest of the ballots. Saying it's a no-information election is not sufficient. Are non-extreme position like B2 A1 C1 or B1 A0 C

[EM] Winning votes criteria against margins criteria.

2007-07-23 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Hi bunch, from what I concluded: 1) Winning votes is resistant to truncature when it comes to protect a strong Condorcet winner: it means a group of electors cannot get their favorite candidate elected instead of the Condorcet winner if this Condorcet winner has a 50%+1 majority against each othe

Re: [EM] Linked issues, 1-dimensional political spectrum

2007-02-24 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I agree with Scott, The image we get of the debates is a 1-dimensional projection of a multi-dimensional opinions set. One first consequence is that any set of preference can be totally sincere. On the contrary of what Mike said in some examples, there is no need to consider electors as betrayors

Re: [EM] Random and systematic

2007-02-24 Thread Stephane Rouillon
: > At 11:34 PM 2/15/2007, Stephane Rouillon wrote: > >Sorry to target an honest idea, > >but my main critic about random methods is the fact that > >results are not reproductible. Thus, the incentive for fraud > >is huge and the electors confidence within the syst

Re: [EM] Even simplier anti-gerrymandering rule

2007-02-24 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Do we really need boundaries to obtain any representation? Would any other way to capture comparable population samples be preferable? Actually the geographical link ties up electors that belong to the same region, thus obtaining different electorate in each region... Having all districts with the

Re: [EM] Randomized MCA, new weird voting method idea

2007-02-15 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Sorry to target an honest idea, but my main critic about random methods is the fact that results are not reproductible. Thus, the incentive for fraud is huge and the electors confidence within the system should drop with time... This remark does not remove any of the qualities suggested by Forest

Re: [EM] Combating the Approval Burr dilemma

2006-11-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I definitively disagree with Abd, the Burr dilemna or any measure of the number of starategy a voter has to consider should be the main criteria to evaluate electoral systems. If the goal of an electoral system - and I believe it should be it - is to elect people based on sincere preferences of th

Re: [EM] Unicameral single-member + PR in Germany (Re: CompetitiveDistricting Rule)

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Sorry but no, I am definitively not playing with words. I am just making sure that the terminology used, leaves some way to describe SPPA. Call it the way you want, but make sure people understand that a single-runner method can have multiple-winners if the voters of each districts are considered e

Re: [EM] STV and STV-PR

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I understand. James Gilmour a écrit : > > Stephane Rouillon> Sent: 16 October 2006 21:18 > > > > Sorry for asking a question most people already know, but > > Is there any difference between STV and STV-PR systems or are > > they simply two names for t

Re: [EM] Unicameral single-member + PR in Germany

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
ier on the list? > http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/ > 2006-July/018392.html > I think it is proportional and single winner (but does not always > elect the plurality winner of each district). > > Juho Laatu > > On Oct 16, 2006, at 23:30

Re: [EM] Competitive Districting Rule (back on topic)

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Same story... Multiple-winners districts are needed, not necessarily multiple-membered districts. Stephane James Gilmour a écrit : > (...) > > To ensure effective representation in legislatures, councils, etc, all > districts should be multi-member (whatever PR voting system > you use). (...)

Re: [EM] Unicameral single-member + PR in Germany (Re: CompetitiveDistricting Rule)

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
It is possible to achieve PR with single-member districts if by single-member district it means only one representative of any political can be candidate. This unclassical definition does not say that there will be only one winner. There could be several or even none. However, if by single-membe

[EM] Competitive Districting Rule - SPPA

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Hello EM List, I have been rather busy with electoral reform in Quebec, but I finally found the time to answer some mails I kept since summer. I made an identical analysis to Mr. Olson's point of view, that leaded me to a bicameral scheme too: one geographic representation for demanders and one

[EM] STV and STV-PR

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Sorry for asking a question most people already know, but Is there any difference between STV and STV-PR systems or are they simply two names for the same model? If not what is the difference? Stephane. election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Mass Candidates

2006-07-06 Thread Stephane Rouillon
ns than a true expression of ones preferences. Anthony Duff a écrit : > --- Stephane Rouillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > any system that would leave a default value for unvalued/unranked/unapproved > > candidates would help. Personnaly, I would suggest: > &

Re: [EM] Mass Candidates

2006-07-03 Thread Stephane Rouillon
Hi Dave, any system that would leave a default value for unvalued/unranked/unapproved candidates would help. Personnaly, I would suggest: A) Let the voter precise the score, rank or state of all unexpressed preferences; B) I favor preference-style ballots over simple approbational ballots; C) I fa

[EM] compulsory voting

2005-10-15 Thread Stephane Rouillon
I am against compulsory voting and compulsory full ranking. Not going to vote is the only way left to voters that want to say all candidates are bad, except when a None option is provided (which should always be the case so we could know the level of approbation from the electorate in regard to th