Quoting Eric Gorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Allen Pulsifer wrote:
>> Going back to the example I gave, the Condorcet majority that elected D was
>> made up of everyone who did not rank A the highest, i.e., the Not A's, and
>> they all coalesced around D. In reality a
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> Going back to the example I gave, the Condorcet majority that elected D was
> made up of everyone who did not rank A the highest, i.e., the Not A's, and
> they all coalesced around D. In reality a coalition like that would never
> happen and if it did, it could not be held
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> Getting back to Condorcet, there is a majority in each pair-wise comparison,
> but for each pair, it is a different set of voters. There is no way, at the
> end of the election, to go back and say "This is the majority that elected
> the winner".
>
> In certain cases, Cond
Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> At 5:12 PM -0500 6/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Quoting Jonathan Lundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>
>>> IRV's problem with ignoring later preferences and not always finding
>>> a Condorcet winner is a direct consequence of the way it avoids
>>> Condorcet's proble
Quoting Jonathan Lundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> IRV's problem with ignoring later preferences and not always finding
> a Condorcet winner is a direct consequence of the way it avoids
> Condorcet's problem with encouraging insincere voting.
On what basis do you claim that a good Condorcet Method
Just got this via my Condorcet Calculator (http://condorcet.ericgorr.net) and
thought others would be interested. All Condorcet methods picked the same
winner. All IRV methods picked the same winner. The winners of Condorcet and
IRV methods were different.
here's the info I got:
My book club
Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> What we want, it seems to me, is to be able to persuade the voter to
> vote sincerely, and to do so honestly. The problem with burying is
> that it's a both simple and relatively obvious, and in particular
> elections might become widespread.
Which is why voter educat
radio deli wrote:
> What are the problems you see with IRV? Could you explain them in a
way
> that people without a statistics degree (like me) could comprehend? I
> hope you have a chance to respond---you seem quite knowledgeable on the
> topic!
Here's a great commentary posted by Ralph Su
Quoting James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Eric Gorr Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:31 PM
>> James Gilmour wrote:
>> > Jan Kok Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:07 AM
>> >> Yes, I agree that the election rules affect how people vote.
>> >> But, u
James Gilmour wrote:
> Eric Gorr Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:31 PM
>> James Gilmour wrote:
>>> Jan Kok Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:07 AM
>>>> Yes, I agree that the election rules affect how people vote.
>>>> But, unsophisticated IRV supporters are no
James Gilmour wrote:
> Jan Kok Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:07 AM
>> Yes, I agree that the election rules affect how people vote.
>> But, unsophisticated IRV supporters are not aware that there
>> can be incentives to vote insincerely in IRV elections, or
>> may believe that IRV and Condorcet
Quoting Paul Kislanko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> (this is what has happened in the US over
> the last 8 years to make the US the mockery of democracy).
Aaarg...The United States ISN'T a democracy - at least not yet and
let's hope it
never truly becomes one.
For more info, I might recommend reading:
Quoting Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If everyone votes Range in a balanced way, sincerely after thoughtful
> consideration, not exaggerating, you end up with an optimal election
> method, actually.
I believe it would only be optimal if the meanings of each ranking used by
everyone i
Quoting Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> At 04:27 AM 12/7/2005, Scott Ritchie wrote:
>> Please please PLEASE drop this requirement, and you might actually get
>> some serious traffic to your site. This is really interesting, but
>> there's no way I'm signing up for membership (or asking
Quoting rob brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ok, I've made it pretty clear I am not a fan of Range Voting as it has been
> presented. However, I could see it being done in a way that is fair and
> does not encourage people to inadvertedly do something that is counter to
> their interests.
Just a gue
Quoting rob brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Does anyone know any good sources for sample ballot/pairwise matrix data?
I've got some at:
http://www.ericgorr.net/library/tiki-index.php?page=BallotArchives
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