Re: [EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-08 Thread James Gilmour
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:40 AM At 03:07 PM 12/2/2005, James Gilmour wrote: On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express your liking for A and your dislike for B more strongly than I do, does not mean your vote should count for any more

Re: [EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:07 PM 12/2/2005, James Gilmour wrote: On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express your liking for A and your dislike for B more strongly than I do, does not mean your vote should count for any more than mine, or than anyone else's, when we are asked to choose

[EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-02 Thread Warren Smith
Gilmour: What I had in mind was if I vote 1, 2, 3, 4 (1 = most preferred, the one I want to see win) for candidates A, B, C, D, and you vote 100, 99, 2, 1 (1 = most preferred) for the same four candidates, it would be fundamentally undemocratic if your vote counted for more in determining the

Re: [EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-02 Thread James Gilmour
Smith Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:35 PM Exactly wrong! Social utility is THE overriding goal which trumps and encapsulates all else. On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express your liking for A and your dislike for B more strongly than I do, does not mean your

Re: [EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-02 Thread rob brown
On 12/2/05, Warren Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are deluded in thinking that your kind of voting is more fundamentallydemocratic because it omits strength of preference information.Deluded is certainly a word that comes to mind regarding the suggestion that people will, in significant

Re: [EM] reply to Gilmour attack on range voting social utility; CCd to RangeVoting

2005-12-02 Thread Kevin Venzke
Warren, --- Warren Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Let me attempt to reply. First of all, by expressing ABCD in that order you *already* are expressing a more-strong preference for A over D than for, say, C over D. In many voting systems your vote would therefore have a stronger effect