At 04:14 PM 12/2/2005, Kevin Venzke wrote:
>--- Warren Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> > Social utility is THE overriding goal which trumps and
> > encapsulates all else.
>
>Surely you see a problem in relying on voters to tell you the social
>utilities...
I don't and I don't think Warren do
At 04:08 PM 12/2/2005, rob brown wrote:
>"Deluded" is certainly a word that comes to mind regarding the
>suggestion that people will, in significant numbers, choose to
>reduce the strength of their vote to some non-zero value below the
>maximum possible strength they are allowed.
>I don't even
> Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:40 AM
> > At 03:07 PM 12/2/2005, James Gilmour wrote:
> >On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express
> >your liking for A and your dislike for B more strongly than I do,
> >does not mean your vote should count for an
> Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
>
> Let me put it this way. If we have a true democracy, the form of
> government and its institutions are a matter of the consent of the
> people.
Let me put it this way. Any time I see a discussion about how a voting
method works begin with a philosophical argum
At 03:07 PM 12/2/2005, James Gilmour wrote:
>On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express
>your liking for A and your dislike for B more strongly than I do,
>does not mean your vote should count for any more than mine, or than
>anyone else's, when we are asked to choose bet
Warren,
--- Warren Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> Let me attempt to reply. First of all, by expressing ABCD in that order
> you
> *already* are expressing a more-strong preference for A over D
> than for, say, C over D. In many voting systems your vote would
> therefore have a stronger e
On 12/2/05, Warren Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So you are deluded in thinking that your kind of voting is "more fundamentallydemocratic" because it "omits" strength of preference information."Deluded" is certainly a word that comes to mind regarding the suggestion that people will, in signific
Smith Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:35 PM
> Exactly wrong! Social utility is THE overriding goal which
> trumps and encapsulates all else.
On this point we shall have to disagree. Just because you express your liking
for A and your dislike for B more
strongly than I do, does not mean your
>Gilmour:
>What I had in mind was if I vote 1, 2, 3, 4 (1 = most preferred,
the one I want to see win) for candidates A, B, C, D,
and you vote 100, 99, 2, 1 (1 = most preferred) for the
same four candidates, it would be fundamentally undemocratic if
your vote counted for more in determining the
